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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

and a UBI replacing all welfare programs

I'm actually against that. Not against an UBI per se, but against it replacing all welfare programs.

The main issue here is that needs vary a lot, and depending on your specific needs, an UBI might not begin to cover them.

One of my kids has Cystic Fibrosis, which leads to frequent hospital stays. One of the main medications (Kaftrio, that stuff is a miracle drug, it's crazy how well it works) costs ~€350k per year.

UBI would be a drop in the ocean in this regard.

The same goes for a lot of other conditions. For example, a nursing home costs way more than any UBI would cover, but also if you have a disability that would require frequent assistance and/or a modified home or some special kind of transport, UBI would be just not enough.

[–] darthmachina@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But that's where socialized healthcare comes in. None of what you brought up would have to be covered by any sort of UBI. Especially since if we had a national UBI we would probably already have socialized healthcare since the latter would be easier to get through than the former.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 49 seconds ago

That's the thing, though: many people advocating for UBL argue that it should replace ALL benefits (like the person I responded to) because, according to them, the UBL would cover all issues already. Generally speaking, people who argue like that are under 30 and haven't had any serious contact with chronic conditions and don't even consider the existence of anything worse than a broken leg.

Special needs (not only disabilities but all sorts of special circumstances) are complex, and UBL is a simple solution for complex issues. And a system like UBL needs to work for everyone, not only for most people.