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[–] swemg@sh.itjust.works 105 points 3 days ago (16 children)
[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 105 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Real tweet, fake text... no way any NATO leader would say "Europe is going to pay BIG" it's just too Trump. Same with the incessant comma splices.

But big congrats to Trump for ruining the information space so completely that I genuinely cannot tell what's real anymore.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is Mark Rutte.
He would totally say “Europe is going to pay in a BIG way” to flatter Trump.
Incessant comma splices is I guess typically Dutch and indicative to the way Rutte talks. I sometimes do it too.
He's a liberal, making him almost as right-wing as Ursula von der Leyen, not a social democrat
or a democratic socialist or left of that.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 52 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm sure EVERY European politician randomly CAPITALISES words like some LUNATIC

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

It's Mark Rutte. He certainly would write it like this.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 days ago

And signs their essay texts with their name. Very common as we all know.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz

This user is great when it comes to mimicking this.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

He's a true American PATRIOT who loves America BIGLY

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

I don't believe this is real, but the all caps words aren't random. They're clearly for emphasis, the same kinds of words I might capitalize for effect. That is not really the unbelievable aspect of this scenario.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hasn't Rutte always been known for being able to handle Trump well? I'm pretty sure the only way to do that is kiss his ass in a way he understands, so this doesn't seem too surprising.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago

kissing his ass and conceding all his demands is not "handling trump well" lmao

[–] BA834024112@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I would love and hate to see proof that Mark Rutte really texted this to Trump.

The "Truth" post is 100% real, inarguably, but I haven't seen anyone reporting the picture is of a real message from Rutte to Trump.

E: never mind that is... apparently Rutte's office has confirmed the message is really from Rutte????

?????

I need to go lie down.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can tell you as a Dutchman, reading this I could hear Mark Rutte's voice and it aligns with his anglophile suck-up character.
I couldn't see him writing it any other way.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago

I'm confused why people are surprised at this, to be honest. It's entirely expected.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 33 points 3 days ago

The Rutte team has confirmed it was indeed a real text sent by Mark Rutte to Trump.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's entirely expected, not sure why you're in disbelief.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 29 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It reads like something Trump wrote about himself. He's done that kind of bullshit before.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

If you know Mark Rutte long enough, you can tell the difference.

[–] amorpheus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Or something written to pander to him.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

Trump has also leaked private messages before.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This has been my thought the whole time. It looks read like something someone with an IQ 43 would write about themselves. That or they had Grok do it.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you know Mark Rutte long enough, then you know it's his style of flattering a person by mimicking him, mixed in with his own style of speech.

[–] koper@feddit.nl 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's saying the quiet part out loud. Surely anyone who sees this will be outraged?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago

It isn't really a quiet part, though, never has been. NATO has openly been a millitary alliance for the purpose of maintaining Western Imperialism headed by the US, no more and no less, since its inception.

[–] adb@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ran a quick search and multiple well established news outlets are reporting this.

I’m afraid it is.

The wording does seem very out of character for Rutte but it makes sense that he feels the need to stoop to Trump’s level and overdo the flattering.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Really?
I'd say it hits it completely on point the way Rutte is, an anglophile that doesn't want to rustle too many feathers unless it's against leaders of countries outside of NATO.

His party is super-pro-Israel and super-anti-Russia.
What's he gonna complain about?

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

"Really, really"

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Things I'd want to know before deciding for myself whether the screenshot montage is real, regardless of whether Trump shared it (he did):

  • Have we seen other screenshots where Trump use enormous font sizes? Is that how bigger system text looks in this app? He's not exactly youthful, so it's no great surprise, but worth asking the question.
  • Is it realistic that Trump or an aide would have screenshotted the entire message within two minutes of it being received?
  • Does this messaging app routinely display the contact name offset and the profile image vertically cropped? What app is it?
[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don't know about any of it, but I've had Rutte as my prime minister.
This reads like the way he talks and thinks.
The biggest strength of Rutte is that he's a chameleon,
so there's no telling what he actually thinks,
but considering his party allegiance it's pro-NATO through and through.

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