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It's wild how "Karen" started out as calling out racism and now it's just a way for sexist people to shame women for not performing gender roles. (hexbear.net)
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Good women are young, quiet, have pretty long hair (never dyed a unnatural colour though!) and never speak up about being mistreated, ever. You want to complain about a genuine problem? Sorry, you're a Karen. Ask people to social distance? Karen. Nicely tell people to please be quiet during a movie? Karen. Ripped off by corporate greed and want a refund? Karen.

Be silent, be feminine and behave, woman.

It sucks because it actually used to describe real harrassment that black service workers experience. Now it's just "Mouthy mom aged women with short dyed hair"

I've even seen a male black service worker be called a "male Karen" I shit you not.

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Likewise, incel communities were originally gender inclusive and focused more on physical and mental issues/disabilities than toxic mindsets. Until the misogynists moved in and pushed everyone else out.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah, from my research on the topic a few years ago, it was a website founded by a woman that turned into something de facto unmoderated once the original founders left, and that made the misogynists go wild - all the way back in like 2003.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Same with the anti circumcision movement

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m out of the loop on this, what happened to the anti-circumcision movement?

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

@DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net I'm lazy to type this comment out twice.

cw: misogynyMRA shit. It's feminism and women's fault. Mum's are evil and do it to their sons. Most circ doctors are women (totally false BTW). Why won't feminists protest for me, despite the fact that I'm a raging chud?

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

…wah? 99% of the time circumcision is either due to patriarchal religious beliefs or dads who want their son to “look like them.” Pure ass nonsense.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

How tf do anti-circumcision types also keep their fascist beliefs?

The whole reason circumcision got started in the us was because of conservative prudes who wanted to make sex less pleasure because “sex is eeeeeeeeeevil!”