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I agree with you and you're being really correct, but narcissistic is a slur. The origin of the word comes from the disability Narcissistic Personality Disorder. You're obvious talking about neurotypical behaviour, so could you use a different word?
The origin of the word actually comes from the Greek myth, and vastly predates the disorder but I'm going to assume you're just trolling.
Personality disorders are divergences from normal patterns of thought and behaviour. In plenty of cases, they are caused by physical differences in the brain.
They are definitionally neurodivergance, and become disability when the resulting behaviours impact an individual's ability to function normally in society.
Narcissus is a Greek name. Narcissistic is an english word. The ancient greeks did not call anything narcissistic, because the word didn't exist.
The N word comes from Spanish but people who use it aren't speaking spanish, are they?
An English word that existed long before anyone was ever diagnosed with NPD. I'm very sorry for your diagnosis but trying to make an entire existing word unusable for everyone else is kinda the definition of narcissistic also.
X to doubt on your claim there, but why does that matter? The N word and the R word existed before they were slurs too. Are you going to apply the same logic there or do you have a unique hatred for pwNPD?
You doubt that a word meaning "like Narcissus" was used to describe behaviour similar to the popular thousands of years old mythological figure, before modern psychological science used it to describe a personality disorder?
Yes. I'm also going to doubt that anybody in this thread was speaking Greek when they used the word narcissist, given that all these comments are in english.
English mugs other languages and their associated grammatical rules all the time, especially Greek and Latin, and especially especially words related to mythological figures, like Herculean, Titanic or indeed, Narcissistic.
English isn't a person, it's a language. The root word narcissism was pulled into english by people. Those people were late 19th century psychologists.
And since it has become a part of general usage English
It was put into general use by a book which claimed comtemporary america was normalising NPD, and later by self help books selling the old Hitler special - all your problems are caused by a vulnerable minority and please give me money
Just fyi, your posts in this thread are getting passed around on chan sites and are getting dozens of (You)s, I didn't start it. Don't try to delete they were using archive links and screenshots.
It's absolutely deserved. You're talking about a term for an aggressive personality that is sometimes related to a DSM classification that's a lot closer to psychopathy than, say, autism or schizophrenia when it comes to carrying a stigma, having symptoms which interfere with life & socializing.
really showing self-awareness when you say
while gloating about the harassment this user is going to receive from 4chan. classy.
Eh, I don't mind being 4chan's "lolcow" or whatever other ableist bullshit they've invented this week if it means I'm making radical queer identities more visible and making more common queer identities seem more normal. I mean, Trump singlehandedly normalised fascism in the US by being such a fascist clown. Maybe I could go a little way to being the opposite of that. Let them parade my identity around in front of everyone, that's what we did ourselves at Stonewall and we ought to be doing it more often.
Wouldn't choosing to maintain the fake sense of status that running an online community creates instead of deleting it because of the harm it does or will do definitionally narcissistic? Or is there a requirement here for such actions to be a lifelong pattern?
i would just change it to self-centered. this is an online topic that’s not worth the argument and also narcissism unfortunately does have lightly ableist connotations now since the word has now been medicalized
i think calling people narcissists is kind of a
ism in general and should be abandoned entirely for that reason when as you said 'self-centred' accomplishes the same aims.