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[–] BedbugCutlefish@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Nah, you probably did it right. WFRP is a deadly system, which cuts both ways. PCs will win fights hard and fast, much of the time. Its just that, when the fight turns, when they get bad luck on rolls or are outnumbered/outmatched, they die hard and fast.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago (8 children)

As someone who has run every edition of WFRP (really weird how they skipped straight to 4th from 2nd, but let's not get into that) along with Dark Heresy and a bunch of other stuff based on the same core, this is exactly right.

WFRP isn't meant to be "punishing" or "difficult" or whatever other term you want to come up with for "mean to the players." No system should ever be mean to the players by design, that's just bad GMing. You're here to have fun, not shit on people, and any system can be made unfair by just being unfair, that's not an accomplishment.

What WFRP is meant to be is tense. Success and failure rest on a knife edge. Dangerous enemies can be felled by a lucky blow, but by the same token a high level PC can be taken out by a lucky hit from a goblin with a knife. PC's still have plot armour in the form of fate points (representing the universe itself literally looking out for you), but everything feels more dangerous, not because the game is "harder" but because death is only ever a few bad rolls away.

High level WFRP characters will still become very powerful. A top tier fighter can duel three or four enemies at once and come out on top, and that's OK. They should be able to do that, they're a top tier fighter. But even when they hit that kind of power level they'll never feel completely safe even though they'll be able to dispatch most minor opponents with ease.

[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No system should ever be mean to the players by design, that's just bad GMing.

Just ignoring Paranoia.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Paranoia isn't so much "mean" as it is calling your best friend "fuckface" in front of his mom.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago

Calling the perfect game mean is an act of treason. Please proceed to the nearest Traitor-B-Gone tube for correction.

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