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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy: The time has come for a new third party! One made up of honest working class people, with infinity time and money between elections to campaign starting now. Oh also you need to go from 0% to 51% in one election cycle or just scrap the whole thing.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So how many election cycles do we give them? Serious question.

Look at the Green Party as a prime example:

1996 - 0.71%
2000 - 2.74%
2004 - 0.10%
2008 - 0.12%
2012 - 0.36%
2016 - 1.07%
2020 - 0.26%
2024 - 0.56%

29 years, 8 general elections, 0 electoral college votes. Zero.

To put that in perspective, more electoral college votes have been awarded by ACCIDENT (2004), than have been won total by the Green party in 29 years.

More electoral college votes have been awarded by faithless electors (2016) than have been won by the Green party.

Their best run was with Nader in 2000 and even that did not move the needle.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I can't imagine why there should be a limit. What happens when we reach it?

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

Why on earth did he reply to your 5 month old comment? Weird.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If a third party can't win an election in nearly 30 years, it's not really an alternative to anything. Time to let it go.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let it go and do what? The plan that has won over the last 30 years was the fascist one.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You let the Green party go. They can't get 1% of the vote, haven't won an election in any state, it's past time to give up the illusion that they are a real party.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It sounds like they've been pretty insignificant. Which better idea has worked well over the last 30 years?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Taking over a major party by challenging center candidates in primaries and winning in the general elections.

See the Tea Party / Red Hat takeover of the Republican party.

Progressives need to do the same to the Democrats.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Why didn't they try that sooner?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago