(this is a sarcastic post meant to highlight the absurdity of some of the “greater good” rhetoric we’ve been hearing, especially around leaving vulnerable populations like disabled people behind in case of revolution, basically accelerationism)
this post was submitted on 15 Apr 2025
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One does not preclude the other. There is energy for both inclusion and revolution.
In fact, revolution is inclusion, is mutual-aid, etc. It's a requirement. For every person "fighting" there are 10 more people supporting the people and the community that fascism and its shrinking safety nets leave behind
We are probably fighting the same people anyway, but can we please focus on their actual crimes instead of their harmful rhetoric?
Well, no you're not really an ally yet, far as i can tell. Fix your head. "Trannies" sheesh son
Edit for the thread: probably best to just block this cat, they're clearly enjoying themselves
The portion of the population of trans people in the US is the same as the Jewish portion of the population of pre-Nazi Germany.
You would have happily sat by as the Jews were sent to the ovens.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Suggesting that not being caught up in your fight for semantics, is the same as condoning mass murder. Disgusting.
How you take me for someone who sits happily by while fascists send anyone off to die is crazy man.
People's passports and other basic identification documents are being revoked, the healthcare people need to stay breathing is being targeted for elimination, and the official policy of the administration is that trans people are pedophiles worthy of the death penalty. And you're here spouting the T slur and dismissing the genocide that is right in front of you.
Yes, you would have happily sat by, and likely cheered on, as Jews were sent to the gas chambers. After all, Jews in pre-Nazi Germany were as unpopular as trans people in the US are now. You would have probably been throwing a few rocks on Kristallnacht yourself.
Fuck you. That shit is happening in your fucked up corner of the world, not in mine. You were the ones who lost your fucking country to the Nazis.
Now i gotta worry about your president threatening to invade my country, because you spent so much fucking time talking about minority social inclusion (which they fucking should have, and do have in my country) that you completely botched the job of keeping billionaires from just buying up your government.
Most of you need multiple fucking jobs to pay the rent and feed your kids, because you ate the propoganda that unions were out to abuse you they've been spewing for the last half century.
I think it is very honorable that you want to fight for social inclusion. But when are you gonna get on from that, and actually fight to improve working and living conditions for the working class? Not getting thrown into poverty if you break a leg?
Maybe changing your education system, to have a stronger public school system, don't you think the social inclusion would happen more naturally if you just fucking educated your people?
It's ridiculous to look at. You keep letting them buttfuck you, Meanwhile everything the American left has been yelling about for the past decade is social inclusion and forbidden words.
Fighting for the working class IS fighting for minorities. Incessant yapping about semantics is only driving the people who should be fighting with you away.
I doubt it. Bigots are too powerful. They're good at getting their messages out. They raise bigoted children. They also strongly oppose any education that might help undo these bigoted views, so you really have a chicken-and-egg situation there.
That's why it isn't enough to just not be racist; you have to be anti-racist, and I think that by the same token it isn't enough to just not be a transphobe...you have to be anti-transphobia. The bigots are organized and willing to fight, so the other side has to, too.
Ok. You're no longer included.
oop quick note man it’s “trans people” or whatnot will delete this once ya see
Bashing?
Analogy - black people tell me not to use the n word, am I at a disadvantage for saying “black” instead of a slur? Would be a little odd to ignore feedback when it makes no difference to me… I ain’t married to “n***er” (censored it painlessly)
I’m irreverent as FUCK by the way ^ 10, quick make a dead baby joke (srsly I don’t give a shit about ouchie topics, I do try to be aight to folks tho)
This is the ideal perspective that leads to optimal outcomes for the general public?
Nah, but fighting so hard for something that you forget to... checks notes have basic human rights like healthcare and free education, is ridiculous.
You went so hard on one issue, that you drive half your population to vote for Nazis. Job well done, right?
Certainly made me mad enough to reply all over this thread. This is the kind of conversation that’s really useful, that we’re having now, I think!
So as soon as DC criminals are sentenced for insider trading, illegal deportations, and so on, rewarding ourselves with using words that distract our allies could be a nice treat!
Nobody likes sitting princess, hands in their lap, waiting and waiting for years… but if it earns us a few more minutes of discussion on healthcare, without distraction, I like that trade-off :)
Thanks for coming back & chatting
I also think these are important discussions to have. When i think of American leftists, i think of sensitive guys who get offended on other peoples behalf.
When i think of European leftists, i think of punkers down to 14 years old throwing bricks at police. Americans need to step up.
While Hitler’s in power, gentleman’s agreement to defer discussion on words might make sense. Use the standard accepted lexicon today, get scofflaws out of Washington, return to this topic in happier times