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Attorneys for Luigi Mangione asked a judge to stop federal prosecutors from seeking the death penalty against their client, saying the U.S. government "intends to kill Mr. Mangione as a political stunt."

The motion filed Friday in the U.S. District Court of the Southern District said U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi ordered the death penalty to "carry out President Trump's agenda to stop violent crime and Make America Safe Again."

Mangione, 26, who faces state murder and terrorism charges in New York, along with federal murder and stalking charges, is accused of murdering United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson last year in New York City.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

I want absolutely fucking everyone to stop calling it an assassination.

Words have meaning.

This was a murder. Let's not elevate CEOs to the status of the House.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] foggy@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Oh, no.

Dude was murdered.

We just don't know who did it. :)

Not til proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of their (also healthcare deprived) peers.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No way was that guy murdered, i saw the video, he just collapsed after someone pointed at him.

I'm guessing he had a pre-existing allergy to lead.

[–] FancyPantsFIRE@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

Yeah but he was an asshole which was a pre-existing condition, so we’re going to have to deny murder coverage here.

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But luigi didn't do it. He was with me playing video games in altiona

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Who said Luigi????

Not me!

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

he was in canada at the time.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

By definition, it was an assassination.

Assassination is the willful killing, by a sudden, secret, or planned attack, of a person—especially if prominent or important. It may be prompted by political, ideological, religious, personal, financial, or military motives.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Except the object shot wasn't a person.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

If you’re trying to seriously dehumanize someone to justify their assassination, I’m going to ask you to go back to the children’s table because the adults are talking here.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

How was it not an assassination?

[–] cyphear@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was retaliatory. It was the price the CEO paid for underhanded practices that killed thousands. By denying those people healthcare that could have been life saving; he, the CEO, invited what happened. If something that would be considered illegal is done in protection of others it shouldn't be a crime.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

and witty was brazen to double down too.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

It wasn't even a murder. Only human beings can be murdered.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

first of it itsnt, political, or a public figure. hes a low-level CEo, you wouldnt know existed.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

The CEO of UHC is both a public and a political figure

[–] foggy@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because an assassination specifically involves the killing of someone holding political power or public office... like an elected official, diplomat, or head of state. CEOs may have economic influence or lobby politicians, but they're not government officials or elected representatives. Calling it an assassination falsely equates corporate influence with legitimate political authority, elevating economic power to the same status as democratic representation. It's a murder, not an assassination. Words matter, and precision here is crucial.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

I feel like acknowledging that corporate interests DO have extreme political power is kind of the whole point.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Does mass self defense count as murder? I guess so, it just is so secondary. This is the easiest trolley problem.

Grand epics are made about toppling villains who committed far less harm than stealing, leeching, murdering, torturing health insurance companies.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

If wasn't a murder. Only human beings can be murdered.