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[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago (9 children)

"I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option."

What's his reason for saying this? How does a government shutdown give Trump more power?

[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Citing what I saw on Philip DeFranco earlier, apparently in a shutdown the executive branch has a lot of power in terms of what specifics get shutdown and how.

Was news to me considering the shitshow that happens every time the budget needs to be voted on but with all the DOGEness going on makes sense that there's extra caution around this. Still sucks that Dems rolled over so easily.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 46 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Nothing is stopping the republicans from shutting it down themselves if it was so beneficial to Trump.

And it’s not like they wouldn’t lie and blame it on the Democrats, so there’s minimal risk in voter agitation vs alleged reward.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 11 months ago

I think mostly it is revealing about Schumer's priorities. He has a government job. If everything within the buildings in Washington DC is mostly still working the way it's supposed to, then at the end of the day he still gets a paycheck and some important stuff to do every day. Lots of people across the US going through upheaval, losing their jobs, maybe getting detained indefinitely or not, journalists getting threatened, all that stuff isn't, like, good, but it's also not an existential threat to him. The government shutting down would be.

And so, avoiding that is a key priority of his. It's urgent. All that other stuff is not.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plus it's a great opportunity for dozens of trolls to push a republican narrative on social media. Maybe a message to anyone left-leaning to stop voting.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Caving to the republicans was all the reward schumer needed.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A congressional recess during shutdown means that nobody would be left to hold Trump accountable. Except, they're already not doing that, so...

[–] wedge@lemmy.one 8 points 11 months ago

I say this with no sarcasm whatsoever... Its not like anyone is opposing Trump anyway so what's the point of capitulating and preventing a govt shutdown... There is no point other than bending a fucking knee.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the goverment shuts down, the buildings and agencies will be empty, because all government workers will be home. But DOGE and Musk arent government workers, and theyll have unimpeded access to EVERYTHING, with absolutely nobody to observe what they are doing.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

They already have that.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It's bullshit to cover up for the fact that his corporate donors like Blackstone can't handle any more stock market pain.

[–] MyFriendGodzilla@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's my question too. Does it unlock some military related powers? Maybe if there is no gov theres no legal oversight power?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

It doesn't unlock anything new, it just removes the lion handler from the lion's circus act. Although, that lion handler was a Republican majority and wasn't doing anything anyways.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

no reasoning other than having an excuse to vote in favor of the bill.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

How does a government shutdown give Trump more power?

It doesn't. It's a straight up lie. He's enthusiastically complicit.