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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by DrPop@lemmy.one to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

The few conversations I've had there have been unproductive and inflammatory. While even in other instances when I've said something someone disagreed with they would at least support their statement. Also no one would tell me why the "Confused Unga Bunga" meme is racist but they keep accusing me of it. I'm all for open discussions but even the comments there are so angry and toxic.

Edit: I'm reading every comment and taking everything people said and considering all sides. My stance on the phrase has changed but I am still hesitant about giving hexbear a chance. I'll sleep on it though.

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[-] Zoift@hexbear.net 67 points 10 months ago

Unga Bunga is racist because of this shit.

The phrase has a long history as a racist dogwhistle, and is deeply tied with "Race Science" horseshit.

[-] DrPop@lemmy.one 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah I saw that but only after I added terms like racist and offensive to my search result, meaning if I just type that phrase by itself into Google nothing. I also don't watch any of that shit because it's like you said, horseshit.

I will not use the phrase in the future though.

[-] Zoift@hexbear.net 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah I saw that but only after I added terms like racist and offensive to my search result, meaning if I just type that phrase by itself into Google nothing.

That's the point of a dogwhistle. If they didnt want to whistle, they'd just yell a slur. The whole point of its racist usage being able to signal racist ideology to those in the know, while hiding behind people like yourself who insist on it being fine.

The preferred response to learning of a dogwhistle for the first time is to go "Oh shit, my bad, i wont use it again." It costs you nothing and removes camo for actual detestable people.

When you argue to the effect "It not that racist", you provide screening for racists, and are doing their work. Normalizing crypto racist shit attracts racists. For this reason, you will be dunked by bears.

[-] DrPop@lemmy.one 29 points 10 months ago

I'll chock this up to ignorance then. I will be adding that to my list of things not to say.

[-] Zoift@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

rat-salute

It happens to all of us at one time or another. We all live in societies scarred by hundreds of years of brainworms; Grew up with them, internalized them. It takes effort to just see the scope of these brainworms, much less change them.

Most of Hexbear is hyper-vigilant against this sort of thing because we've spent a lot of time deprogramming ourselves and others of these particular ideological blinders. We can get pretty defensive when our fash-detectors ping. I'm sorry if we've hit you with undeserved ire.

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