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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Women’s sports is about representation of women.

Maybe that's the crux of the issue. You guys keep seeing women's sports as some sort of symbolism or representation or statement. The majority of people see women's sports as being about sports. No agenda needed. No messaging. Just physical competition purely for the sake of it.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, it is about sports - but only in addition to being about representation. This is the key distinguishing factor between women's sports and male/open category sports.

If it were purely and solely about sports then women's sports as a category wouldn't exist. Female athletes would get similar funding and opportunities as male athletes, both in competitive and casual events.

Just take a look at chess: Why is there a women's league? Answer: Because there are significant systemic barriers against women in chess. Without their own leagues, there would be no representation in the top level at all due to men dominating the rankings. Having women's chess tournaments is about representing women in chess.

But trans women are banned from ranked women's chess events. And to put the cherry on top, trans men are stripped of all their titles after transitioning.

Cruelty is the point of these decisions. Not "supporting women".

Oh, and one more thing:

No agenda needed

Totally. Zero agenda, zero ideology, zero DEI and zero wokeness. Traditional conservative women's sports events just like we always had and how God intended. Not even a strand of feminism to be found here, nope.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Calling chess a "sport" in the context of this discussion is such a reach I'm suspecting you might actually be Reed Richards in disguise.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Contemporary chess is an organized sport with structured international and national leagues, tournaments, and congresses.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess

The only difference between chess and other sports is that one requires more physical prowess, the other more mental prowess.

Chess is an example of trans people being banned in sports for no reason other than them being trans.

Another example:

Trans women are now banned from US college gymnastics where they have zero competitive advantage as focus lies on artistic performance over strength.

Or another one:

UK Athletics bans trans women that have gone through male puberty at all levels of competition - be it local, regional or national. The NHS doesn't allow doctors to prescribe puberty blockers to children though.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

focus lies on artistic performance over strength.

What the fuck hat did you pull this bullshit out of rofl

The NHS doesn’t allow doctors to prescribe puberty blockers

Irrelevant

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Women's routines tend to be more artistic and dance-like, sometimes telling a story, whereas a priority for men's routines is to display strength. (The women's score also includes a spot for artistry on the balance beam.)

liveabout.com

The men's and women's floor exercises are fundamentally similar, but the artistic performance aspect of the women's discipline is missing from the men's.

usatoday.com

Not only that, but women's floor routines tend to include dance moves (often to music) in order to showcase their artistry, while men's floor routines are typically about showcasing strength.

distractify.com

Men’s events typically emphasize upper body strength and powerful acrobatics, while women’s events highlight balance, grace, and artistic expression.

deveaus.com

I can't vouch for the quality of all these sources, they are literally the first results on any search engine.

Isn't that common knowledge though?

Women's gymnastics: artistry > strength

Men's gymnastics: artistry < strength

Both still require a lot of artistry and strength respectively. They just have different priorities.

Also, thank you for ignoring 99% of my comment and nitpicking two lines. You argue like a politician.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I ignore the irrelevant bullshit because I think it would lower my IQ to stoop to the level of addressing it.

Both still require a lot of artistry and strength respectively.

That's my point.