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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Gas is terrible until the power grid goes down in the middle of winter.

Electric should definitely be the main go to but we should all have gas hookup for a backup heat source in my opinion.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's excessive compared to the extremely low risk of a blackout in developed countries (excluding the United States which has regular blackouts). To illustrate:

US households spent 5.5 hours without electricity on average in 2022. Excluding major events like hurricanes, the number drops to 2.1 hours.

German households spent a whopping 12.2 minutes without electricity on average in 2022.

A portable gas heater, blankets and a camping stove are completely sufficient for the average person considering most longer power outages last for a couple of hours at worst. Exceedingly rare longer blackouts will always have a government aid program, such as a heated gym with free food, near your location.

The only one's who should really prepare for blackouts are:

  • the government
  • people who live hours away from civilization with very limited infrastructure connecting them
[–] rustyricotta@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree, though here's my anecdote from the PNW.

We've had a couple storms this winter. One of them I lost power for 4 hours, but a friend of mine in the next town over was out 4 days. And some didn't lose at all, so it varies. Power outages like this aren't too rare every year.

It doesn't bode well for our freezers, but we don't get cold enough to be anything other than cold and inconvenient. Easily remedied by temporary solutions you mentioned.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah here in the Midwest my area lost power due to the polar vortex around the winter solstice a few years back. Did it suck? Yeah. But towels under doors, ready to eat food, candles, and lots of blankets made it merely unpleasant. You absolutely should have supplies for situations like that. At some point I'd also like to keep drinking water supplies. Your emergency preparedness kit is generally best to keep at "bearable" levels for a few days. The goal is to ride it out, not to experience full comfort.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

We were without power for almost a week during an ice storm a few years ago. There was no government shelter that I ever heard about. We had to stay at a friend's house.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Breaking news: some countries have higher and lower population densities.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Until you discover that the gas infrastructure and your home heather need electricity to function. You better have an old fashion gas stove as backup that you can use until gas pressure drops too much. You could get bottles of gas and a camping heater but every year people die because they use these indoors and get CO poisoning so be careful.

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 5 points 1 week ago

Are you sure you're not thinking of generators? All the popular propane heaters in the US have CO shutoffs. There's not really a point to using a heater outdoors in the first place unless it's one of the huge ones that take a 20 pound tank and very obviously shouldn't be used indoors.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trust me, I would love to get ride of gas, but my stove does work fine without power. Also, utilities generally don't go down because of weather, since they have backup power on site.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Normally they should have backup, but places like Texas saved a few bucks on backups and their maintenance so their gas lines went down too. That was in the 2021 power crisis. Deregulations and increasingly weird weather is a bad combination.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If only there was some sort of invisible power we could harness from a large ball of fire 🤔

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh like a nuclear reactor? Wish those where still a thing...

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

he is talking about fusion reactor, specifically not fission.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Well why can't we have both? Lets make boiling water sexy again.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There are these things called batteries, and they don't have to be made from Lithium.

Also, you could take it literally and burn wood to harness the warm energy surrounding it on a winter night.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago

Batteries are expensive, and having a solar array and battery bank large enough to power your home all winter would be prohibitively expensive.

This is why we ideally have a wide range of energy sources. It's usually raining and windy in winter.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Gas heating doesn't work without electricity. Thermostat is electric, blower fan is electric. Modern furnaces even use electric ignition instead of running a pilot light.