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It's brief, around 25:15

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nf7XHR3EVHo


If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them :)

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[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 241 points 21 hours ago (57 children)

I wish he had mentioned Lemmy, but it's understandable that he didn't. Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

But beggars can't be choosers, and we have seen some nice growth over the past couple months. John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

[–] anachronology@fedia.io 43 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Agreed, but at least Bluesky is a public benefit corporation, so it supposed to take in the needs of society as well as profit in its decision-making. That may not be much, but it's a start.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 15 points 17 hours ago

"Public benefit corporation" is a meaningless designation. All it means is they have the option of putting their mission over their shareholders, not that they are obligated to do so.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 36 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm not familiar with the details of that, but it seems like more of a red herring to me. A form of controlled opposition to divert people away from truly revolutionary platforms.

Of course it has to seem like a plausible alternative, but is it actually decentralized or altruistic enough to make a meaningful difference? I think not.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 35 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

"Public benefit corporation" is such an oxymoron, I know it's cliché to say this but it reads like something out of 1984.

If your goal is truly to benefit the public, why wouldn't you start a non-profit? It's because they want profits, which will always be at odds with the interests of the public.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 13 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

If your goal is truly to benefit the public, why wouldn't you start a non-profit?

Because your non-profit isn't likely to go anywhere; Capitalists don't give significant money to non-profits, but they'll invest in a public benefit corporation because of the potential for profit. The corporation can then take their money and use it for whatever public benefit it intends to work towards. It's a workaround to try and scrape some benefit to society out of capital, that otherwise wouldn't exist.

Whether Bluesky is actually a good example of a public benefit corporation or not, I have no idea, I don't use it.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago

You’re absolutely right, but as a UxD, until these platforms learn UxD, they’ll never work. They can’t.

It doesn’t matter how great they are, the vast majority of people won’t learn. And they shouldn’t have to. That’s why big commercial apps are better – good designers need to eat, and big companies can pay for their eggs.

It doesn’t matter how good your model is, without great UxD, you’re dead in the water.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Their protocol allows for federated relay servers, but I'm not aware of anyone having done the exercise of launching one.

[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

That's because, to my understanding, the prerequisite to be able to launch one is "handle the raw, unfiltered firehose of all the traffic on the entire platform". A relay has to be a mirror of the entire company's hosting infastructure, and you'd have to essentially do it for free. It's no puzzle to me why no one's done it yet.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Ah, yeah that makes sense then. They're over 30M active users now.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Chances are it's really just that, a start. See OpenAI.

[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 1 points 16 hours ago

If I was losing money and wanted to mantain control over the public id become a public benefit corp too

[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 1 points 16 hours ago

So twitter didn't make money anyways, this is a better way for them to hold power

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