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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/29755429

Taiwan's government warns its people of visiting China, Hong Kong or Macau. Former government employees, people who have participated in civil movements or criticized China, and those working on sensitive technologies are considered at high risk of detention or interrogation.

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The Mainland Affairs Council (MAC) has since Jan. 1 last year received 65 petitions regarding Taiwanese who were interrogated or detained in China, MAC Minister Chiu Chui-cheng (邱垂正) said yesterday.

Fifty-two either went missing or had their personal freedoms restricted, with some put in criminal detention, while 13 were interrogated and temporarily detained, he said in a radio interview.

On June 21 last year, China announced 22 guidelines to punish “die-hard Taiwanese independence separatists,” allowing Chinese courts to try people in absentia.

The guidelines are uncivilized and inhumane, allowing Beijing to seize assets and issue the death penalty, with no regard for potential repercussions for family and friends of the accused, Chiu said.

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Those who work in [Taiwanese] government agencies or institutions are often questioned on arrival in China for 30 minutes to four hours, and their suitcases and laptops might be searched, he said, adding that academics who support the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) are not exempt from such checks.

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[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

2.77 Million people visiting China from Taiwan. 65 detained with not a single actual individual person being mentioned in the article. Just vague "went missing or had their personal freedoms restricted"

Why is this news?

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Just read the article and about China's new 'guidelines.'

Btw, there are around 10,000 foreigners wrongfully detained in China, most of them are not officially named by their countries.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

10,000 people detained out of how many tourists worldwide going to china? Like, I'm just trying to get some context because (1) a massive amount of people visit China every year and (2) how does this compare to other countries. A person being "detained" could literally just be a traffic stop or any other interaction with a police officer.

I guess my point is the article is purposely vague. How would this compare per tourist to the US for example?

Also, what you're mentioning is not at all what I mentioned originally. Which was about the article and Taiwan. You changed the subject to worldwide in order to make the number larger. Which, obviously it would be.

Edit: Asking about actual per capita comparison between countries is bad apparently. I guess "China bad" is heavier than getting actual data. Something this article completely fails to provide.

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A person being “detained” could literally just be a traffic stop or any other interaction with a police officer.

No, a traffic stop or an interaction with a police officer isn't a detention. We are talking here about people who are wrongfully imprisoned for several years.

The vast majority of these people are wrongfully detained after what is called a "closed door trial". Essentially, this means that often not even their lawyers know what they are accused of. Very often, for example, authorities say it is for "espionage", though it remains fully unclear what this alleged espionage would have been.

You'll find a lot of credible reports from very reliable sources. During the pandemic, the situation in China regarding this practice is said to have worsened.

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[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, a traffic stop or an interaction with a police officer isn't a detention

Literally just wrong. Detention includes a temporary hold . A traffic stop is a temporary hold. You're just comically wrong. I won't bother replying to the rest because you started your reply with such stupidity.

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