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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Umm, if one is afraid of bird flu, wouldn't "organic" eggs be worse to buy?

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

While there is a lot of fuckery with "organic", on the whole it should be better off. The chickens laying organic eggs generally have a better environment, more space and better food. This helps boost their immune systems, and slow the general spread.

There are very few treatments to stop bird flu. Healthier birds is about the only viable defence, once it's in.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I think I heard somewhere that free-range chickens actually are more likely to have bird flu, though this is thought to be because most of that is in California and migratory bird routes spreading it, or something like that.

As others have pointed out, it doesn't matter though. Organic does not require this.

[–] muix@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

To qualify as organic, eggs must come from animals that have been given no antibiotics or growth hormones.

Doesn't look like organic has anything to do with the health nor environment of the chickens.

https://ask.usda.gov/s/article/How-does-USDA-define-the-term-organic

A lot of the expensive eggs are more than just organic. There are other classifications for eggs too. Like cage free, or free range. These have increasingly strict regulations (for now I guess).

But free range chickens must spend a certain amount of the day outside, and below a specific population density for that range they are free in.

Cage chickens can't move and shit right next to each other. They are more likely to get the flu I believe.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Once the market finds what people like, the industry will lobby to get it legally defined and then do the minimum towards that legal definition.

So, it sort of depends on who labeled it and makes those labels a little nebulous to the benefit of big ag.

A small brand will come up with something people like, them big ag will just sort of steal the label, make it meaningless and use it as marketing.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Organic is a non-scientific approach to food based in the fallacy of "natural is good". It's typically arbitrary and less efficient.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't have better food, they have organic food.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That's why I prefaced it with the fuckery comment.