They ended famine by industrializing and collectivizing, the Kulak sustem had regular famines. Mind explaining the "invading abd occupying 20+ countries bit?" The vast majority of post-Socialist states wished the Soviet Union never fell, it's well documented. I am also sure the 7 million that died from the dissolution of Socialism and the introduction of Capitalism would agree, if they were still alive.

[+] Tja@programming.dev -9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well documented, you mean by some single polls, 30 years after it happened, and even then only half of the countries have a barely positive retrospective? That's quite well documented indeed... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection

And you know that there's nothing preventing them from forming it again, right? If they miss it so much they could recreate it. Remind me, how many of them are in CIS and how many in the union state? Oh, only two dictatorships, Russia and Belarus? But they have so much popular support! Look at those two surveys!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The number regretting its fall most goes up when only polling those old enough to have lived through it. "Rosy Retrospection" alone doesn't cut it, it's also the tremendous decline in social safety nets and quality of life metrics like life expectancy.

There's actually quite a lot preventing them from forming it again, and it's the same thing preventing Russia from forming it until finally going through Revolution: the Capitalist state.

Seriously, consider cracking open a book once.

[+] Tja@programming.dev -10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, it goes up for those, but it still barely cracks half and you have examples like Estonia, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan where single digit people support it.

The communist party is not banned in most Eastern European countries (what a novel idea, not banning parties and not throwing political opponents in jail!) and they get single digit vote share. This evil capitalist state, preventing communism by checks notes giving people freedom, and prosperity...

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yep, a tiny minority of countries opposed it. Moreover, the idea that democracy is possible within Capitalism, itself an anti-democratic system surrounding the dictatorial command of Capital in the hands of those wealthy enough to afford it, is silly. Prosperity for the few on the backs of the many describes Capitalism aptly.