cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/25133597
Come one come all to the Lemmy-verse! It's nice and cozy here, we do have some "bad parts of town" but you can do an instance block and not deal with them lol
For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz and !biology@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz
You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)
There's much more around as well!
Obligatory, fuck Spez
lemmy.world in shambles
Lemmy.ml is the original instance and the dev instance. I joined it because there was literally no alternative at the time. It's pretty annoying being called a tankie left and right because of this
It's also because the devs are communists. Let's not skip that part lol
Communist is not the same as tankie. Lemmy probably wouldn't exist if the devs weren't communist
They sensor criticism of the CCP
No they don't, reasonable criticism of the CPC is fine, they just ban jinogistic "China bad! Tinyman square! Winnie the pooh!" nonsense.
Those are pretty tame criticisms of the CCP to ban, it sounds like you just made that user's argument for them.
I mean, they're only not the same because "tankie" is so broadly defined that it also includes anarchists and non-western liberals.
No it doesn't.
The f-slur is defined as referring to gay men, but people also use it to insult straight men by suggesting that they're gay. In the same way, "tankie" may be defined as a particular type of communist, but it is deployed against people who don't fit the definition to imply that they do.
This is how basically all insults work, don't play dumb. The definition is something assumed to be bad, and the way it's used is to suggest the person meets that definition.
I'm referring to what they said, not some other insult.
Words are defined by common use.
Yeah and that common definition is described in dictionaries and encyclopedias.
Except when people on here use it all the time to refer to people who don't meet the definition.
Regardless, I'm happy that y'all are changing the definition through over use since it defangs it. You can insist all you want that "It's only used against the people mentioned in the formal definition" but everyone who's ever seen it in actual use knows you're wrong.
Again, you could also try to tell me that the f-slur only applies to gay people since that's what the dictionary defines it as, but every straight guy who's ever been called it (most of them, at least from my generation) knows you're full of shit.
It's like trying to say that "You're mother's a removed" only applies to people who's mothers are actually prostitutes, it's ridiculous and very obviously not how language works.
If you actually only use it according to the dictionary definition, there are no tankies, or at least, very few, even on places like Hexbear or Lemmygrad.
I have to ask, are shitlibs aware that Wikipedia isn't divine gospel, and that there are other works in the history of humanity? Because it seems to inevitably be their one and only go to, which is particularly embarrassing given that even a middle school teacher could tell you that it's not a good source. Even worse, it doesn't' even back up your claim!
Yes it does. Wikipedia is a fairly neutral source. Middle school teachers will tell you that tertiary sources are a good way to start your research when you apparently have no idea what you're talking about.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/politics/tankie/
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tankie
I mean, it's basically your bible, your one and only source for everything. Of course you think it's neutral. It's not, by the way, but you think it is.
That makes sense then, as it's obvious that neoliberals who only cite Wikipedia have no idea what they're talking about.
Oh wow, really digging deep for sources now.
Though even these sources basically confirm that it's a vaguely defended snarl word that can be leveled at anyone to the left of Bernie Sanders.
I get more and more liberal every time I see some self-described leftist call people a shitlib because they’re slightly right of Pol Pit or whatever.
Pol Pot defenders pretty much only exist on Reddit, Gonzaloism is near universally hated by all of Lemmy's Marxist-aligned instances.
Oh are we doing the no true Pol Pot supporter thing now?
Genuinely don't understand what you mean. Go to Hexbear, grad, .ml, whatever, and ask everyone's opinions on Pol Pot. It's 99% going to be negative, perhaps with some minor nuance considering the utter mess that was the Sino-Soviet Split and the US's CIA partnership with Pol Pot. Reddit, however, does have quite a few Gonzaloists on r/communism now, and Gonzaloists generally defend Pol Pot as well.
I can’t even find hexbear or grad.
Because you're on Lemmy.world, which defederated from them due to not wanting to interact with Marxists.
Personally I’m a big fan of McCartneyism-Lennonism.
I’ve been thinking of making an alt at ml for that reason.
If you want access to Grad or Hex, that works.
What nuance could there possibly be about Pol Pot?
Less about Pol Pot, more about the utter fucking mess that was the Sino-Soviet Split and how that impacted Cambodia. This isn't Pol Pot apologia, but an acknowledgement of the entire situation being fucked. Blowback season 5 covers Cambodia, so I can't wait to get there.
Well that's a pretty stupid reason to change your political beliefs.
I’m not changing it just reinforcing it.
All Tankies are Anarchists as long as that Anarchy is in a Western World Power.
If your definition of communism is China and your definition of Capitalism is Western Power, then you're a fucking Tankie, as 98% of self identifying communists on Lemmy are.
Yeah, that's pretty unfair. You shouldn't have to put up with this; and it definitely is not your fault, or the fault of the instance. This "tankie instance" thing is bullshit.
wHY DoN't yOu chAnGe InSTanCe?
I did twice. Just let go of the past. Embrace the future.
It's not about past or future, it's about contributing to the instance that tests new releases first and helping the people that provide an alternative to mainstream centralized media
Same, looks like we are shady now.
everyone keeps telling me my instance is full of tankies but im not seeing it. when i made my account this was the only instance.
also, why the fuck would we want more redditors here?
I think there's an instance on .ml that has everyone in a tizzy. I myself haven't had any issue with .ml specifically. Lot of 'mens rights' bigots from .ee though, not sure why that is.
“An instance on .ml” you mean a community? Or you mean another domain name using the .ml top level domain? If it’s the latter, you probably mean lemmygrad.ml. If it’s the former, there are already quite a few communities on there which have a lot of subscribers and often appear in the “all” feed. Normally those are fine. But every now and then you’ll see some tankie comment and like 99% of the time it’s some user from that instance.
To be honest, I don't pay a lot of attention other than to notice the '.ml' and the vast majority of the time, I don't notice any specific tanki-ness to people from there.
.ee on the other hand has been... (checks) yeah, all but one of my blocks in the last month.
Methinks there might be a culture war/defederation covert campaign being done by more right or even just regular liberal users.
That or I'm being paranoid.
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
that is actually the reason I chose lemmy.ml direct support from the developers is cool
Same as a fellow code enthusiast, the dev instance seemed like a good choice. But no, do not pass go, straight to tankie jail apparently.
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the tankie triad?
It's pretty insane that choosing the default instance is seen as being indicative of your politics
.me laughs