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cross-posted from: https://scribe.disroot.org/post/1873878

The Chinese government is maintaining severe restrictions, conditions, and controls on Uyghurs who seek to travel abroad in violation of their internationally protected right to leave the country, Human Right Watch said today. The government has permitted Uyghurs in the diaspora to make restricted visits to Xinjiang, but with the apparent aim of presenting a public image of normalcy in the region.

Since the start of the Chinese government’s abusive Strike Hard Campaign in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in 2016, Chinese authorities have arbitrarily confiscated passports of Uyghurs in the region and imprisoned Uyghurs for contacting people abroad. While the authorities are now allowing some Uyghurs to apply for or are returning passports for travel internationally, they exert tight control over those who travel.

“The modest thaw in China’s travel restrictions has allowed some Uyghurs to briefly reunite with loved ones abroad after having no news for years, but the Chinese government’s travel restrictions are still used to oppress Uyghurs in Xinjiang and in the diaspora,” said Yalkun Uluyol, China researcher at Human Rights Watch. “The Chinese government continues to deny Uyghurs their right to leave the country, restrict their speech and associations when abroad, and punish them for having foreign ties.”

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[–] Jin008@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But Palestine has heaps of evidence, this does not. Only anecdotes from questionable sources. They keep harping on about this to try to foment dissent and tear China apart.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They have an entire section of the website dedicated to Palestine. The button is right there at the top. They published two articles about it yesterday. This is the most ridiculous whataboutery I have ever seen

HRW's job is to investigate human rights abuses. Their job is not to only report on well-documented human rights abuses. They investigate to improve the documentation of those cases.

[–] Jin008@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, because Palestine is an undeniable issue that is as obvious as gravity, whereas this Uyghur stuff isn't. Them reporting on a true genocide doesn't stop them from being a western mouthpiece to parrot propaganda against their enemies.

Here's some reading and videos about the Uyghur stuff:

  1. https://redsails.org/the-xinjiang-atrocity-propaganda-blitz/#the-real-xinjiang-story
  2. https://youtu.be/p57qyMAySYc
  3. https://youtu.be/gygxrdNmzUQ
[–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"It's ridiculous that HRW is using interviews with Uyghurs as evidence. Also, here's two interviews with Uyghurs as my evidence."

[–] Jin008@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The first video is of a guy who was and idk if he still is a top source on the Xinjiang "human rights abuses" stuff. The second being another one of these "reliable sources". I put the videos there to show how disingenuous these "sources" are.

The HRW article doesn't have anything to prove these "sources" to be true. And so you can infer who is really trying to tell a lie.

Also if you still believe this stuff, HRW themselves have condemned Muslim countries who have investigated the conditions in Xinjiang, found nothing wrong and supported China.

  1. https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/10/05/organisation-islamic-cooperation-should-support-xinjiangs-muslims
  2. https://thediplomat.com/2023/09/betrayal-of-chinas-muslims-undermines-the-organization-of-islamic-cooperations-credibility/
[–] randomname@scribe.disroot.org 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Only anecdotes from questionable sources

What is a good source about China?

[–] Jin008@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Alot of the time the west uses Adrian Zenz (who you can read his Wikipedia page on why he is not trustworthy and is doubted even among European academic circles)

Here’s some reading and videos about the Uyghur stuff:

  1. https://redsails.org/the-xinjiang-atrocity-propaganda-blitz/#the-real-xinjiang-story
  2. https://youtu.be/p57qyMAySYc
  3. https://youtu.be/gygxrdNmzUQ
[–] randomname@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@Jin008

I asked for reliable sources about China, and all you get is a propaganda site and two YT links. Honestly?

[–] Jin008@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Propaganda site? And what you think HRW is totally impartial and unbiased? If you don't want to read the article go and look at the sources then. They're there for a reason.

And you think because it's a YouTube link that it's somehow untrustworthy? Where else do you want to find videos online? Dailymotion?