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Pretty sure Roddenberry himself realized later how unrealistic his original vision was. Humans are always humans, from our beginning to our end, we will always have the same flaws and issues and prejudices, and no amount of technology is gonna fix that
I mean, not long ago on a evolutionary timescale we were hunter-gatherers, living only in small familial groups. People have changed a lot and we'll continue to, there's no reason to believe our current flaws are inescapable. That's just defeatism and apathy
Funny, that's what the fascists tell themselves as self justification. They're just doing what the silent majority wants.
Yes yea, you’re an American leftists and everyone who isn’t you is a fascist, we get it. Go fight with other leftists in the corner while the right is united and laughing at you. Why are Americans so appealed by toxic, exclusionary mindsets? Stop calling everyone around you a fascist, that’s how you end up alone with no friends.
I thought you had a point up above, but you are losing people here by allowing yourself to be triggered. Do whatever you want but I wanted to offer that thought.:-)
On Reddit and Facebook both I was always allowing myself to get drawn into arguments with people who were never going to change their minds. But here on the Fediverse we don't need to foster engagement to help fill up someone's pocketbook (more traffic => more ads => moar money 🤑💰). I hope you can find a way to just have fun here! 😁
I agree with Roddenberry
I also agree with your mom, you are cool 😎
That is the exact premise of his next show, which he wrote notes for and his wife produced (edit: or something, she was heavily involved in taking it forward anyway).
That show had a great first season. It also lasted five seasons.
Oh, man, did they fuck it up. The final season is partially about taking down space vampires, and partially about watching clips from previous seasons.
Yeah, iirc Majel (Gene Roddenberry's wife) died midway through the making of the show, once saying about it:
That said, getting past the "punch the aliens in the nose" aspects, it also has an interesting message (imho) about "purity" having its downsides, ultimately dooming the Talons to a long demise. And then whatever the fuck happened in that last season - presumably it had a point as well but it got so hard to keep making allowances for it after the space Jesus holy-trinity-in-one triple-helix-having Chimera savior of mankind plotline.
But I don't hold any of that against either Gene Roddenberry, who had been dead for awhile by then, or his wife who didn't survive long enough to see the show's end herself. The premise of the show was FANTASTIC! Probably that's what Gene had wanted from DS9 as well: they sit there and the action comes to them, to contrast from the more exploration-minded Enterprise shows (TOS and TNG). And... truth isn't always apparent right from the start.:-)
Majel lived until 2008, long after the show was over, but yeah, it was such a disappointment.
Just when I thought I had heard and learned enough Star Trek to last me a few more years of watching content .... now I learn about this! Thanks for mentioning it!
This sounds amazing and it was made by Gene Roddenberry ... or at least originated by him.
Now I have to add this to my list of sci-fi to watch .... I need to live to 200 years of age to finish watching all this stuff I have listed. I really wouldn't mind O'Brien placing me in the transport buffer for a few hundred years if I was just allowed to watch TV the whole time.
There truly is enough TV to last us all several lifetimes worth:-).
Though Gene Roddenberry's content does seem highly worthwhile, when you can.
He is very imaginative, and great at world-building.