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They have been. Congress doesn't listen:
https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba/
On paper, sure. But in effect it is an oligarchy.
Because the rulers of this country have systematically gutted the education system, they own the media, and their propaganda is wildly effective. And to top it off, as you pointed out it is a FPTP voting system, which means that the results of elections are worse.
So what? Not being able to do good things in a position of power doesn't mean it is acceptable or that he had no culpability.
I pretty clearly (though implicitly) defined the line already:
Brian intentionally and willingly killed people through his actions, and a lot of them. Thousands at a minimum, though easily tens of thousands as he was the CEO for quite a while. When somebody like him is killed, even if through vigilante justice, it is quite clearly justified. Have you been killing tens of thousands of people through insurance denials? No? Then you have nothing to worry about.
Other people who are rich should simply be taxed out of existence as a class. Not killed, just taxed until they're at the level that would have previously been known as middle class before it was destroyed.
As Snapz pointed out, Hitler had family too. Having a family doesn't exclude you from having your death celebrated. If you're evil, you're evil even if you have family. And mass murderers like Brian Thompson are evil. So boo hoo. He gets his death celebrated. Maybe he shouldn't have killed tens of thousands if he didn't want this.
Then you aren't paying attention, either to the surrounding events, or to what I literally just said:
I don't. And it won't. This is a conversation that needs to and will continue until the problem is solved.
Wait sorry about the last sentence. I phrased this completely different than what I wanted to say. Thats on me. I do NOT want the discussion to simmer down. I don't want this death to have been for nothing and I do want change.
Still he became CEO 2022 and many of those denial policies have been enacted internally before that. Hitler was the dictator and above the law. He made the law and was the only instance of power. If Brian Thompsons primary objective was to kill then I'd support it. But I don't think it was. I think this system is at fault for it all the the politicians need to change it likes stated. But I don't think we'll reach a conclusion here honestly. You think self-justice is justified. I think its not. Thats the point I'll stick with.
All good, it happens.
The problem is that people like Brian Thompson are the people who built the system, who bribed politicians to make it legal.
I think simply calling this self-justice is inaccurate. If anything it's class justice. It was an action taken in self defense by the working class. It may have only been one person pulling the trigger on one person, but ultimately it is a result of class warfare, not simply self-justice.