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[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 80 points 2 days ago

I dated a Chinese student at university. She seemed alright until somehow the topic of Tibet came up, and then she went full tankie describing how the Tibetan people were nearly subhuman, living terrible lives with no ability to care for themselves.

I've heard people say similar shit about indigenous Americans and yeah I think it's safe to say that you cannot understate the dangers of propaganda and nationalism.

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

Ain't no racism like Asian racism. I lived with a Chinese buddy of mine for almost 10 years. He said American racism has nothing on Asian racism. Some of the Chinese and Japanese people legitimately despise each other. Long history of atrocities between them.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

That long history can be found in a lot of places with "zero" racism, like.. look at all of Europe, everyone at war all the time.

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

It is always funny when other places shit on America for our history of slavery. Like Koreans for example. They had the longest unbroken chain of slavery of any modern society and yet you'll still have some of them trying to say Americans are the worst because of our history of slavery.

It's like... All places in the world had (or still have) slavery going on. Why does the Internet seem to think we were the worst offenders???

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

It’s like… All places in the world had (or still have) slavery going on. Why does the Internet seem to think we were the worst offenders???

tbf, there are only a handful of systems of slavery that were worse than Southern US and Caribbean slavery as-introduced-by-the-triangle-trade. We were running one of the worst variations of what was already one of mankind's worst systems ever devised.

But yeah, people often aren't looking at that so much as "I know about American slavery and not slavery in my own country"

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

We ended our slavery (aside from the prison industrial complex, but that's kinda a different animal to "traditional" slavery) over 100 years ago. There are still many places in the world with slavery today that people seem less interested in talking about than our historical slavery.

I'm not trying to downplay our history but we can't exactly change the past. But we can put eyes on the current slavery going on but we often don't because people are still focusing on our old slavery. There's a real "America bad" boner on the Internet and it's always a little funny to me. Like yeah we are far from perfect, but it's a little weird to be shitting on us for something we ultimately stopped doing while other places are still actively doing it.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

I think because we're still doing it in our prisons and it hasn't ended.

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The prison industrial complex and traditional slavery are two completely different beasts. I am not trying to take away from the very current and real problem with our country and its prison system, but this conversation is more talking about the good old-fashioned type of slavery that we abolished in 1865.

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