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[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is the definition of terrorism in the state of new yorks penal law

From this terrible overdesigned website https://criminaldefense.1800nynylaw.com/ny-penal-law-490-25-crime-of-terrorism.html

I suspect the prosecutor will try to argue that Luigi attempted to effect a societal change in some way and therefore it's terrorism.

edit: what if they charged him with treason? thinking-about-it

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, does this mean that hate crimes count as terrorism?

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Only if it's against the rich or the white

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Hate crimes are the norm, so no it wouldn’t change anything

I hate that I typed that

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, ...

1.- Does he owe allegiance to the United States? How is that even defined? I don't see how "adoctrinating children to the pledge of alliance" counts, since it's, well, indoctrination, not allegiance.

2.- Did he levy war against them? To my understatement, he is not a sovereign representative and even if such he has not filed a declaration of war.

3.- If not, what enemy of the US did he adhere to? The only reasonable interpretarion I can see here is that he adhered to The People, and thus legally the US State considers The People of the US an enemy.

[–] abc@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

1.- Does he owe allegiance to the United States? How is that even defined? I don't see how "adoctrinating children to the pledge of alliance" counts, since it's, well, indoctrination, not allegiance.

spongebob-wait Selective Service Act (which he probably did sign up with given men are supposed to when they turn 18, for FASFA and whatnot)

I mean also not to mention the fact he's a citizen - and if a citizen can be (and has been in the past) charged with treason which also uses that language, the argument that 'I don't owe allegiance to the US' kinda falls apart:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.