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I get so confused with people portraying Gen Z as these radical socialists when time after time voting shows they are anything but. Especially Gen Z men as a group are extremely conservative. At least in the US.
Gen Z men think being rude and unrespectful will get the girlfriends. They are in the not fucking around phase of not fucking around and not finding out.
That's sadly nothing new
https://circle.tufts.edu/2024-election
More conservative than in the past, but so is the whole country (by votes- most Americans don't vote). Compared to other age groups though, gen z voted less conservative (unless you consider that Harris is basically a conservative)
I didn't mean to imply that Gen Z is less conservative than older generations. A pretty low bar to pass under lol
how does the word "conservative" mean the same thing from generation to generation if the issues important to conservatives change every generation? I'm asking about the term, not the politics
Ah, oki
Keep in mind that those numbers are always going to be off from reality. Also it will vary heavily by state.
Gen Z is just more extreme in their views, regardless of what their actual politics are.
The rightists want a Reich, the leftists want a global communist revolution, and there's no center.
https://www.prri.org/research/generation-zs-views-on-generational-change-and-the-challenges-and-opportunities-ahead-a-political-and-cultural-glimpse-into-americas-future/#page-section-8
This poll suggests otherwise.
You read the Adjuster's manifesto? It's neither "liberal" nor "conservative", but rather, has elements of both the left and right i.e. moderate according to your data. That's just the US. People are incoherent in their ideas.
and i just want to be alone on my computer.
Might be the “horseshoe effect” where they (ultimately) converge on a few things. Change the tshirt, and that would fit trumpy gen z too.
I too have seen the horseshoe effect in play as well.
Horseshoe theory is an incorrect oversimplification of extreme politics. If it were true then anarchists would be no different than fascists, which couldn’t be further from the truth.
I’m not asserting that they are close to the same, but that they end up aligning on certain issues more than either “side” would admit, especially at the ends of the horseshoe (like violent frustration over the same things, and disdain for some common institutions).
I don't believe authoritarians of different feathers flock together, but that doesn't mean I'm right.
They are the least liberal generation since they grew up surrounded by the failings of liberalism. They are either hardline conservatives or leftists. Very few fall between those camps
People tend to be among their age group online. Social media and online forums are conducive to echo chambers.