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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 102 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly he was so smart to be able to get away basically undetected. After I reflected on it for a bit, there's no way he would unintentionally be presenting the same fake ID, manifesto and carrying all the stuff he had. It seems deliberate.

Luigi will be remembered as the one who took on American Healthcare and actually did something about it, even if the full weight of billionaire-owned media and the full force of the law is going to be dumped on him.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still don't get this play here...

Why have all that shit on him.

Just go back and act like nothing happened.

I guess time will tell.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't say for sure whether it is the right decision.

Martin Luther King Jr. advocated for obeying just laws and disobeying unjust laws openly. This could be in the same vein.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/mlk-disobeyed-unjust-laws-state-america-today-requires-we-not-ncna1287569

Of course it could be in vain but I don't know. For sure I would have liked him to get away undetected. But probably knowing that he would eventually be caught regardless, to do it on his terms while he has a broad swath of support might have been his decision. He already humiliated the police from being able to catch him long enough.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Martin only won because the alternative to his vision wasn't the status quo, it was Malcolm...

And they still both got killed for it.

But mercing a CEO in broad daylight ain't a MLK move, that's 100% a Malcolm maneuver.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely, I'm not saying Luigi is MLK Jr. even remotely, I'm just saying that what he thinks is the right thing to do at the moment could be in line with some thinking like that, even if the original action is motivated by something else.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, it seems like he views himself as a MLK...

From Mangione’s review of Ted Kaczinski’s book:

Clearly written by a mathematics prodigy. Reads like a series of lemmas on the question of 21st century quality of life.

It’s easy to quickly and thoughtless write this off as the manifesto of a lunatic, in order to avoid facing some of the uncomfortable problems it identifies. But it’s simply impossible to ignore how prescient many of his predictions about modern society turned out.

He was a violent individual – rightfully imprisoned – who maimed innocent people. While these actions tend to be characterized as those of a crazy luddite, however, they are more accurately seen as those of an extreme political revolutionary.

https://gizmodo.com/computer-programmer-named-person-of-interest-in-killing-of-unitedhealthcare-ceo-2000536144

It's just his standard for Malcolm was Kaczinski...

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Certainly. I'm not trying to argue with you about what this guy thinks of himself.