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submitted 2 weeks ago by mistahbenny@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

My opinion is no. They can then use it to buy drugs or alcohol, which is unfortunately likely.

Maybe you could donate to some homeless shelter?
Or maybe, you could try asking if you could buy them some food instead.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

Housed people buy drugs and alcohol. Unhoused people buy drugs and alcohol.

Why is it so much more evil for the latter?

[-] papertowels@lemmy.one 3 points 2 weeks ago

Some nuance - nobody is freely giving housed folks money to buy drugs and alcohol either.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 weeks ago

I've received gift cards to liquor stores before.

[-] papertowels@lemmy.one 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's cool! I'm willing to bet that's outside of the norm for most folks. If y'all want to prove me wrong I'll happily provide a venmo ;)

[-] akkajdh999@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's not evil, it's pointless

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago

You sit outside on a cold street with just a blanket at 3am when your life has fucking disintegrated and tell me alcohol and drugs are pointless, you daftie

[-] akkajdh999@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I didn't say that doing drugs is pointless. Assisting homeless people buying drugs IS, because it does the opposite of helping to get out of that situation, which is the point.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Who are you to decide what they're allowed to buy? You'd rather have someone go hungry on the off chance they might buy something you don't agree with?

[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's ultimately an assessment done in a case by case basis. Another example: will you give money to a relative who will use it for gambling? Helping someone turn around their life and enabling their habits are different things.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

If my relative wants to gamble with the 2 Currency that I've given them, okay then.

[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Buying them some food I think is the compromise here.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

If you're already standing in front of a food cart, I suppose.

[-] lemming741@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Who am I to decide what my money is spent on?

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Giving another person money usually implies the transfer of ownership of that money to that other person, unless otherwise specified.

[-] lemming741@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think people have the right to do that conditionally

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Sure. And depending on the circumstances the conditions might not make you look like a very nice person. Which you are of course free to ignore.

[-] akkajdh999@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

It just won't help them improve their lifes

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] akkajdh999@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's the point of the original comment and you are bullshitting "how dare you decide what they buy!". They own the money and they decide that they won't spend money to improve a homeless person life if it won't improve it.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

The point is to help this person temporarily alleviate a problem they have, whatever that problem may be. If you don't want to do this, fine, but if you're only willing to give money if they use that money in ways that you deem wholesome, that's patronising.

[-] akkajdh999@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

help this person temporarily alleviate a problem they have

And you mean drinking fucking alcohol lmao. Yeah it's gonna made them feel better for a minute, sure, lol. And fuck them up even worse after that. It's like giving drugs to drug addicts, wtf.

in ways that you deem wholesome, that's patronising.

No onre said "wholesome". If so, trying to help honeless people is "patronozing" then generally. Goverment is "partonizing". Organizations that want to help them are "patronizing".

People on lemmy are SO deranged.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

The problem is that you are convinced they're going to buy drugs. You do not know that person, it is not your place to decide that.

No, I do not agree that simply offering help is patronising.

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