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submitted 6 days ago by Kissaki@beehaw.org to c/gaming@beehaw.org

Steam store pages received a new Anti-cheat field. Disclosure is mandatory for kernel-level anti-cheat solutions. And recommended for other anti-cheat solutions (like server-side or non-kernel-level client-side).

The field discloses the anti-cheat product, whether it is a kernel-level installation, and whether it uninstalls with the product or requires manual removal to remove.

Screenshot of anti-cheat indications

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[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

Anti-cheat software is very clearly and explicitly spyware. That's the entire purpose of it. It spies on how you use your software in the hope that if you cheat you'll be seen by the spyware watching you.

This spyware is generally not something people want on their computer - as evidenced by people complaining about it. So effectively whats happening is that people are being spied on against their wishes. Spyware is a common category of malware.

So I think it's pretty easy to see why people might describe anti-cheat software as malware.

[-] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Nah words have meaning. I get you don't like it but that doesn't make it spyware or malware.

Spyware isn't about watching your system or memory it's about stealing personal information.

These anti cheats specifically comply with privacy laws or they wouldn't be allowed. You won't find any breaking any laws.

Anti virus and anti malware applications do the same. Doesn't make them spyware.

[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

[edit] I'd posted something to go into more detail. But I've decided that branch of conversation is not really the way forward.

I'll just say that the software is not installed by choice, and it does things that people don't want it to do... so it could be described as malware. But if you want it on your computer, then I guess for you it is not malware. In any case, it doesn't look like we're going to agree about this regardless.

[-] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It is literally installed by choice. It's part of the game installation. It's up to users to know what they are installing. Many games likely install lots of things that aren't immediately obvious.

It doesn't infiltrate the system.

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