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Trump told Benjamin Netanyahu in one call this month, “Do what you have to do,” according to six people familiar with the conversation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive and confidential information. Trump has said publicly that the two have spoken at least twice in October, with one call as recently as Oct. 19.

“He didn’t tell him what to do militarily, but he expressed that he was impressed by the pagers,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), who was on a call this month with Trump and Netanyahu, referring to the Israeli operation that killed Hezbollah leaders with explosive batteries inside pagers. “He expressed his awe for their military operations and what they have done.”

Graham added: “He told them, do what you have to do to defend yourself, but we’re openly talking about a new Mideast. Trump understands that very much there has to be change with the corrupt Palestinian state.”

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In order to stop the genocide we need to vote in the people who will destroy the country and commit even more genocide, in the hopes the wreckage of the country can be salvaged into something better. I'm comfortable making this choice, because the extra genocide will only be happening to other people, not to people like me who look just like them over here in the states.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I've actually heard on two occasions now from the 'don't vote for Kamala' people that more genocide does not make things worse because you can't get worse than what is happening now.

Which- yes you absolutely can.

(Then again, I saw someone a few days ago say that Israel is worse than the Nazis by the reasoning that the Nazis were orderly about their genocide.)

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The absolutely trash argument I've gotten is usually... "Less genocide is still genocide." and then them advocating for taking an action that's likely to cause more genocide.

This is one topic where people taking a "principled stand" are just fucking idiots.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yep. I've seen that one too. "Less genocide is still genocide." Which implies that an additional two genocides of brown and queer people don't deserve to be counted.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't usually write it so literally, that's rare. They usually just pretend than any amount of evil is equally evil.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It was rare. They're getting more brazen because they are realizing the "vote third party but it doesn't matter which candidate to teach them a lesson" concept isn't especially compelling.