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submitted 1 year ago by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/memes@hexbear.net

Thanks Dems for doing jack shit about abortion bans, trans bans, the cost of living, the drone strikes, global warming, COVID.

Might as well just call them Blue conservatives. The outcome of voting for them is much the same.

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[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

The vaccine was supposed to end the pandemic, but when not enough people got it to hit 80% immunity or whatever, liberal governments around the world were just like "uh, we pretend anyways?"

Also, I do think that marriage rights have been federally protected in legislation after ROE was struck down and they eyed going after gay and interracial marriage.

Still, I'd of course like to see him using federal land in red states to provide abortion access.

That said, I do also think things would be worse right now if Trump had remained president.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

It's not a sterilizing vaccine. It slightly reduces the chance of infection but it mostly just reduces the chance of hospitalization and death. The current vaccines cannot stop the spread of the virus.

The actual language of the "marriage protections" just lets the states do whatever they want. It's not real protection.

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

The text of the Respect for Marriage act expressly prohibits states from denying same sex couples from marrying.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Ahh. I stand corrected, I did not know that.

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

So like, hey books about you are getting banned from schools but at least you can complain to your same-sex spouse about it ./s

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Word. I'm in Colorado and there have been a lot of refugees coming in from Florida and Texas. : |

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the recent decision on that baker that didn't want to make a cake for a gay couple's marriage. The SC ruled in favor of being able to decline service to LGBTQ+ people on the basis of freedom of religion and free speech. Something that could easily be abused to repress the queer community.

I don't think any of us here are pretending that things under Trump would be fine, instead we question the merits of the argument of harm reduction under Biden.

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Just because I can point to a few examples of how things aren't worse, doesn't mean there aren't still things happening. Biden or Trump, the Supreme Court's makeup wouldn't be different – Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be on the court, but she only replaced another liberal who otherwise could have held on another 4-8 years I think. These rulings would have happened no matter who was President, but they'd be in addition to everything else the Trump Administration does on its own (and I don't even mean kids in cages, since that's still a thing, I mean things like how he wants to be able to directly control most government agencies and fire public sector workers personally).

The way I see things, it's a sound political strategy for leftists to vote for someone like Biden and then use his liberal failures while in power to further radicalise people. IE, "yeah, he's not gonna sign a national abortion ban or attack Critical Race Theory, but he also won't expand the Supreme Court in order to protect these positions in the future". I'd rather radicalise people by pointing out the failures of a liberal than by defending me and my friend's literal existence from a fascist weaponizing every government agency against me.

[-] Hemi03@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

All im saying is, that not voting blue means it wont be better it just gets worst. with no chance of it beckomming better.

[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Losing any leverage and bowing to the dems won't give you the chance of things becoming better

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