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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 80 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Have they played their own games?

Bethesda RPGs are fun. But I'd say they are far from "perfectly tuned." Always found them to be wonky, clunky, bug-riddled.

When was the last RPG they released that didn't require tons of patching?

[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was 10 years into playing Skyrim on my 4th medium of playing it that learned the courier wasn't supposed to be naked. I thought it was a comment on his poverty or something

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Got something to deliver. Your hands only.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Man, this sounds wildly different picturing him naked.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I think he means “perfectly tuned to the way fans want it” which is to say “highly moddable.” Skyrim is kind of the first game in the series that sold really well on platforms other than the PC which strangely brought in a lot of fans who play the vanilla game. But as far as I can remember, the bulk of the longterm fanbase plays on PC and installs tons of mods for the game.

Sure, there are other games that fans like to mod (Minecraft being a big one) but I can’t think of any other game where fans stack dozens or even hundreds of mods by different authors all on the same game and actually expect it to work. The fact that it does work at all (and fans have created custom programs to merge mods and to carefully tune the loading order) is rather a miracle!

So this is what I think he means by “perfectly tuned.” A brand new engine would mean putting in a ton of work to support all the different forms of modding fans want to do and in all likelihood would be far less flexible and powerful, leading to modder community outcry.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When was the last RPG they released that didn’t require tons of patching?

I would have said "that terminator game they made in the early 90s" but that is hardly an RPG :)

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't recall Arena having many patches, but since there wasn't a great way to distribute patches back then, they probably had no choice but to get their shit at least mostly stable before shipping.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

"Memory list blown" was my constant companion 😫

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago