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“That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad fucking guy!”

Reads like a bloody Onion article.

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[-] bishbosh@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago
[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works -3 points 6 days ago

Because ethnostate is just the excuse people use. Look at the demographics, it's very multicultural in population.

But it's leadership sucks donkey balls and there is way too much religion in their society.

[-] match@pawb.social -1 points 1 week ago

cuz I'm opposed to all genocide actually

[-] nifty@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago

The Jewish people have the right to a home state as facing antisemitism has been a distinct reality of their cultural past. Of course, both Israel and Palestine deserve the right to self govern and their people the right to self determination. The civilized world shouldn’t accept genocide from allies either

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

The Jewish people have the right to a home state as facing antisemitism has been a distinct reality of their cultural past.

Do we all get free stuff based on our great-grandparents' past, or are past situations nearly a century ago outweighed by the present?

Consider how your answer relates to climate change.

[-] match@pawb.social -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

present situation is there's millions of israelis so they're not going anywhere, and millions of palestinians and they're not going anywhere either. two states

[-] bishbosh@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The Jewish people have the right to a home state as facing antisemitism has been a distinct reality of their cultural past.

No. No one has the right to an ethnostate.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 1 week ago

Putting aside whether it is right or wrong, having an ethnostate doesn't make the Jewish people any more safe. The proof is that Jews are safer in America than they are in Israel.

[-] Abnorc@lemm.ee -1 points 6 days ago

The Jews being safe in the US is sadly not guaranteed in the future, especially with the rise of Nazis here. The existence of Israel isn't guaranteed either, but the thing that compelled many people to establish it is that Jews at least had some agency in their own safety there.

[-] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The Jewish people have the right to a home state as facing antisemitism has been a distinct reality

No. They dont. And stop pretending that the zionists speak for all jews. They do not now and never have. There is no threat to global jewery except from the theiving and murderous actions of the zionists. No one cares about the jews, they do however want 2000 years of zionist criminality and terrorism to stop.

There is no "right" to steal other peoples land and kill them if they wont get off it. There never has been. This round started in 1947 when that "right" you describe was rewarded with land by the UN, to be equitably shared with the current inhabitants. The UNs pity party for the nazi's crimes is long since over. Take it up with right wingers if you have a problem with the fascists, but dont claim a "right" from the rest of us that doesn't exist and never has. Your philosophy is simple troglodyte thievery and religious entitlement, nothing more or less.

[-] Maeve@midwest.social 0 points 6 days ago

Balfour was bad, Herzl was bad in 1896.

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

No they fucking don't.

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