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[-] Piers@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It's such an exhausting problem that so many people hold society back from meeting everyone's needs, because society fails to meet everyone's needs and thereby creates people who hold society back from meeting everyone's needs, because...

It feels like being locked in a room full of people flinging shit at each other because they are mad that people won't stop flinging shit at them and everytime you try to gently suggest they all just stop flinging shit they just start flinging it at you until you shut up.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Crab mentality is by design, and the only way out is to look at who's fucking bucket it is.

So

it’s such an exhausting problem that so many people hold society back from meeting everyone’s needs

while this is true on the surface, to find the core of the problem you have to look at who actually benefit from this state of affairs and never forget that it's those few who hold society back, not the many people they pit against each other to stop us from turning on them.

[-] CalvinCopyright@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How does one find those few people? And how can they be worked against? I honestly don't know and I don't know how to find out. Do I ask ChatGPT???

Shit, maybe I should ask ChatGPT...

[-] okmko@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is definitely a small set of powerful, rich, and influential people who "benefit", but I don't think it's a pyramid of nefarious overlords so much as it is just a large web of people acting on their own interests.

The same could be said for people with crab mentality. They are acting on their impulses, values, and opinions, born from likely unfortunate circumstances, when they drag their immediate others down. They aren't thinking about holding society back at large.

Plus, quite often things are the way they are because of historical inertia. It's why historians place make such a big deal about continuity. For example, many laws we have can be traced back to some series of awful events that happened to a set of people. But those awful events were probably caused by yet another set of awful circumstances.

If you're looking for some group of people to blame for all of your woes, you might just become a fascist.

[-] Piers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There is definitely a small set of powerful, rich, and influential people who “benefit”, but I don’t think it’s a pyramid of nefarious overlords so much as it is just a large web of people acting on their own interests.

The same could be said for people with crab mentality. They are acting on their impulses, values, and opinions, born from likely unfortunate circumstances, when they drag their immediate others down. They aren’t thinking about holding society back at large.

Those are all just crabs in the bucket. Some of the more aggressively single-minded ones are nearer to the top of the pile than others.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you’re looking for some group of people to blame for all of your woes, you might just become a fascist.

right, because looking to free yourself from the grip of fascism = fascism.

You "enlightened" centrists never cease to amaze me with the bullshit you pull out.

[-] okmko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're entirely reading what you want to read out of my words, and then promptly applying some vague label as if you're somehow the most enlightened yourself. As if, probabilistically, we both aren't in very similar circumstances being here this very moment in the system that you seem to so despite.

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