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ooooooooooooooh

Seriously though, I thought GTA's tone was feeling a decade out of date even in 2013. It just stinks of the late 90s and early 2000s, specifically of early South Park

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

It's especially clear if you listen to the in-game radio stations, it's just like South Park.

Isn't that one of the most celebrated features that got expanded upon more and more over time? It used to be just "ironic" music if I remember correctly, like opera.

[-] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 day ago

“ironic” music if I remember correctly, like opera.

Hey, I actually liked listening to opera/classics more than any other music while driving on my car/vehicle in these games. >:T /nm

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

That's fine. I can see the appeal.

I still believe its inclusion in GTA was meant for le irony purposes.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It used to be just "ironic" music if I remember correctly, like opera.

Yeah it does, it also has current-year hits, classics etc., but it also has in-universe advertisements and like, fake talkshow type things. It is very on the nose when it comes to these two things.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Yeah it does, it also has current-year hits, classics etc., but it also has in-universe advertisements and like, fake talkshow type things. It is very on the nose when it comes to these two things.

I'm glad I have been staying away because a bunch of "haha caring about things is stupid check out this farcical version of a hysterial and triggered person being emotional for your amusement!" Howard Sternesque shit would only make GTA even worse for me.

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

IIRC for GTA5 it was all satire aimed at mid 2000s Fox, both the trashy reality TV side of it and Fox News. I'm not gonna say it doesn't revel too much in the spectacle of just taking something that's already awful and dialing it up a bit, but it's more in the style of the Onion where most of the bits are taking the mask off an institution or trend and having it honestly portray itself as what it is (like the Fox News expy literally having the tagline "confirming your prejudices" or an American Idol expy literally just being assholes reveling in cruelty) than South Park style nihilism - it has a point to make and that's that American culture is reactionary and repulsively self-centered and consumerist, even as it is itself reveling in being trashy slop.

You've got to remember, everything after GTA3 was written in the context of the Bush era and none of it was written after gamergate: it has the sort of incoherent dirtbag quasi-left contemporary counter culture stance of recognizing the US as bloodthirsty, pointlessly cruel, and deeply unserious but also not having any sort of framework for understanding or addressing that and being entirely too libertine and chauvinist on top of that. It's kind of alien to anything we have now, because that whole counter culture basically got wiped out by gamergate crystalizing the chauvinist libertines into open fascists baying for blood and forcing everyone else to stop tacitly tolerating them.

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