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Researchers found a flaw in a Kia web portal that let them track millions of cars, unlock doors, and start engines at will—the latest in a plague of web bugs that’s affected a dozen carmakers.

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[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Probably with every IoT device. Security is always an afterthought.

[-] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 2 points 18 hours ago

If the cost of implementing proper security is greater than the cost of the fallout from a serious vulnerability, I think we know how most companies will behave. Just take a look at Crowdstrike's share price, it's recovering nicely.

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oddly enough, the cars will be more secure used since all of those online features will be defunct and abandoned for newer, more "advanced" shitware in ten years.

Continuing the tradition that buying used is always a good idea. Thank you, auto industry.

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Mmmm, all those expired domains with known vulnerable api clients still calling them...

Imagine a botnet. Now, imagine a botnet on wheels!

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If the data isn't being paid for anymore, they can't connect to anything at all. Is T-Mobile or Verizon or whoever expected to foot the bill ten years down for no reason? There may be some definitions of connecting I'm missing, but I reasoned a data connection over some sort of cellular network.

But then, if it's some hidden proprietary magic on some unused bands, who knows?

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I think it does use cellular. But theoretically, it could use a mesh network of all applicable cars that hops back to some entrance nodes into the manufacturer's network or cheap exit nodes to the broader internet.

Edit, autocorrect

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

I imagine they're still searching for the network despite not being able to reach anything, so maybe a local hack would be possible near the vehicle, but remotely? Idk.

My personal strategy to avoid this situation is to just not buy a car with those "features". If I can't know before I buy it, then I won't bother to care to know. Keep your secrets, I'll keep my $.

At some level, I'd put the blame of some of this on the consumer.

Something being a scam on some level should be the inherent suspicion of basically everything you intend to purchase. The chances a product is straightforward and trustworthy seem to be far less likely these days than the opposite.

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