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[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 174 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Plugging into a random usb port is bad security

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Not really bad if you use a power-only cable. If the data pins aren't even wired up, can't move anything other than power.

Not sure if that works with USB-C at anything other than legacy 500mA power draw though, probably not since the device can't communicate for what it supports.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 68 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If your device has good software, it will only allow power unless you authorize a data connection.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago (1 children)

* Assuming there is no bug, zero-day, or other vulnerability on the current version of your fully updated device.

Having a power-only cable removes that as a possibility.

[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Still gotta worry about stuff that could send a ton of current to fry the ports too. USB condoms can help here too but your own power adapter is best.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ton of voltage. You push voltage and pull current.

[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 10 months ago

I only push imperial current electron flow style.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Now if only usb cables were labeled like Ethernet cables.

It amazes me how given the complexity of the USB specifications, where everything looks the same but it is not the same, nothing is ever labeled.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Some things are but the labelling is stupid and tiny. Many laptop ports are labeled but people aren't familiar with the icons (and the icons are often confusingly similar)

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Well--to bring it back to the security point, you can't trust the icon on the port anyway. You need a well-labeled cable, and, good luck

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Happy Cakeday! 🍰🎂

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A power only USB-C cable is a violation of USB spec, has to be USB 2.0 at the least.

[–] amorpheus@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's never stopped companies from making something, like A to A USB cables.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

With this arrangement, they probably can't steal your data. But they can absolutely destroy your phone with a string electric shock, if that's the sort of malicious plan they have.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Until you find that person who wired a 48v USB plug, just for you.

[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

USB-PD standards push 50v. Go with wall voltage (110-220v 60/50hz) to be sure.

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Not really bad if you use a power-only cable.

Or a USB condom. But I never really hear about those anymore.

[–] Bangs42@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There has never been a proven case of juice jacking, anywhere, ever.

[–] myplacedk@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

But I have seen multiple phones get harmed by a really bad charger. Although these chargers were not for public use.

Still, it's not a bad idea to bring a power bank. And then charge that, if you need to.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

At least that's what the juice jackers want us to think.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 10 months ago

Bangs42 thinks they're slick, but we all know that's what a juice jacker would say.

[–] li10@feddit.uk 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So’s leaving the house.

Stay in, bolt the doors, board up the windows, stay safe.

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Except that isn't even safe, just paranoid. Sometimes accidents happen because you're trying to prevent accidents

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And don't travel by plane, and don't travel at all. Build a bomb shelter basement with titanium walls.