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Third of people in Spain say local area has too many foreign tourists
(www.theguardian.com)
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So, another way to report this is;
Two thirds of people in Spain are happy with foreign tourists visiting their lovely country
*with the number of foreign tourists...
There is a difference between tourists visiting and too many tourists visiting.
but would they be happy with decreased revenue from fewer tourists visiting?
also:
so maaaaaaaaybe this isn't just about the quantity of tourists.
I'm sure the Venn diagram of those who would be happy with decreased revenue, who have a negative view of tourists, and who think there are too many tourists has a lot of overlap but is far from a circle. Tourists do bring in money, but they also do tend to trash the places that they don't live more than the locals, and can drive out locals.
Here is an opinion piece for Hawaii that echos a lot of the complaints from Spain.
There are valid reasons for people to be opposed to the volume of tourism when it reaches extreme levels.
I didn't say there aren't valid reasons, my point was that there will be drawbacks that people may not be thinking about when responding to a simple poll. Especially people who don't directly depend on tourist revenue, but likely benefit indirectly.
That mentality is largely the result of overtourism though.
Spain is a country of under 50 million people which has over 70 million foreign tourists visit every year.
The US is 330 million people but only has 50ish million foreign tourists.
So imagine that the US has roughly 8x as many tourists per year (to match per capita) and imagine that a huge portion of these tourists were mostly coming from much richer countries and had the mentality of 'let's let loose in a cheap party spot'.
Just about everyone is in favor of some tourism, it's just currently completely out of control in much of southern Europe. The numbers just completely dwarf just about anywhere else.
Too many tourists just means you need to raise hotel prices. Locals don't pay for hotels.
How many people don't give a fuck tho?
Wow, you kiss your mother with that mouth?