Ukraine hasn't even been independent for my entire life, what are you talking about? Do you think thirty years is a long time? Are you twelve?

This is the thing that gets me with lemmy libs at times. I want to dunk on them harder, but some of them are so naive and ignorant about basic facts of recent history that in the back of my mind I can't help but think I'm probably talking to an actual, literal child. Then I just feel saddened about it more than anything.