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Without evidence, the Republican vice presidential candidate tried to cast doubt on his opponent's obvious momentum: "If you talk to insiders in the Kamala Harris campaign, they're very worried about where they are"

You’ve heard Donald Trump cry “fakenews” too many times to count, and now his running mate is claiming — without evidence — that the media is using “fake polls” to show Vice President Kamala Harris is in the lead in the presidential race.

In an interview on Fox News Sunday, Sen. J.D. Vance alleged that “The media uses fake polls to drive down Republican turnout and to create dissension and conflict with Republican voters.”

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[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 76 points 2 months ago
[-] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 months ago
[-] ours@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

And JD Vance in your couch.

[-] brrt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

First thing I thought when seeing this. Looks like a poster for a gig and the setlist. Someone needs to put an ai to it and make the most garbage of songs out of those titles 😆

[-] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I bet Replace Bureaucracy is a banger

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Bureaucracy isn't something inherently good. I don't think you're going to get a lot of people jumping to defendant. It can exist for reasons. I think it would be better put that they want to end democracy rather than bureaucracy. Democracy absolutely tends to lead to some bureaucracies. Whether or not they're Justified is another question.

  • a quick edit since so many are failing reading comprehension*

Bureaucracy is a tool it is neither inherently good or bad. Me implying that it wasn't inherently good. Did not imply that it was inherently bad. It is inherently necessary. But also not something you're going to get people to Rally around unfortunately. I understand that I seem to have found five or six bureaucrats. Who visit Lemmy and are very upset that people don't love bureaucrats. There's nothing I can do about it. Just quit with your straw man.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, that needs to be rephrased: "replace civil servants with sycophants" or "replace subject-matter experts with MAGA idealogues" or something getting at that idea.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yes I can 100% agree with that

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that should be rephrased somehow. While I’m not sure exactly what was intended for that, part of the platform is to replace the meritocracy (people hired for ability to do their job) with loyalists (people hired solely for loyalty to whoever won) ….. for as many as 50,000 positions.

Generally thenn be policy heads are loyalists and the people who make it happen know what they’re doing

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Bureaucracy is necessary in a modern, functioning society.

"Move fast and break things" doesn't work on the government level (it arguably doesn't work for tech bros either). We need things like permits and building codes.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I agree 100%, that's why I didn't say any of the things you are pretending I said. I simply said bureaucracy isn't something that people like and are going to feel motivated to defend. Even if it is necessary

[-] Furball@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Can you tell me how government services and operations would be run without civil servants?

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I never implied that it could or should. It's more that bureaucracy isn't something that people are fond of and want to protect. And therefore is bad propaganda wise to around people around. This is all something that you all are misunderstanding and reading into it.

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