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He says such outlandish shit on the regular now that this isn't getting anywhere near the coverage it should be. Everyone needs to have a mental reset on what's actually normal for a politician to say, and then come back to this speech again.
Frightening stuff.
This is what I find disturbing about America .... it's not so much that insane politicians have been allowed to take positions of high office .... it's that the majority of the American population just accepts it all and does either very little or nothing about it all.
It's one thing to call out a liar or charlatan ... it's quite another to have a large group of people who actively want to listen to the same charlatan for years and years and eventually accept them as reasonable and even honest.
The American political system isn't falling apart .... the entire country is falling apart.
It's quite something to watch, coming from someone that lives in the UK. Sometimes I look at our political system (especially over recent years) and wonder "wtf are we doing?", but then I think about the US and am immediately given a reality check. It makes us look normal.
I saw a documentary a while ago about how Trump is meticulously appealing to the Christian voting base - they view him as a heavenly figure and are actually beginning to class non-Trump voters and the Democrats as 'demons'. He's beyond a politician in their minds, I don't think cult of personality quite cuts it any more, this is something different.
I don't know if it's something in the water over there or what, but they've gotta cut it out now.
You can just say cult. Like the Jonestown, Waco etc. kind. It’s ok, we’re all terrifyingly aware.
Looking from outside... no, it does not.
Both countries look like their electorates are composed mostly of ignorant deranged wilfully misinformed lunatics.
(Though, to be fair, the UK does seem to have less outspoken fundamentalist religious nutjobs, and your fascists seem to tend to mostly stay in the closet, so maybe it does make you look somewhat less worst, if definitely not anything resembling normal...)
Yes, but we've still got our bread and circuses, so we're not going to riot. We don't have a rich history of that like France, for example.
I'd also add to this that a whole bunch of us have at least a few extended family members that we heard spouting similarly insane takes for as long as we can remember. But because they were the patriarchs or were unhinged enough that they'd ruin the family reunion or Thanksgiving for everyone, we all learned it was in our own best interest to never challenge them.
We were conditioned from a early age to ignore it at go on with our lives, and they were conditioned that they could say more and more unhinged things and really never be challenged on it.
I'm sure the Romans said the same thing when the northern armies started falling apart.
One way to combat this constant stream of shit is to lock on certain ones unrelentingly.
This video is one. Project 2025 (and his clear ties to it) is another.