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Israel parliament votes to label UN relief agency a terror organisation
(www.middleeastmonitor.com)
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-to-seek-to-end-unrwa-gaza-activities-after-staffers-fired-for-oct-7-involvement/
For those curious about the allegations against about 10% on UNRWA.
No one but genocide loving zionists wants to hear the lying screeds of a genocidal, racist, apartheid regime. I care as much to read that as a copy of the latest "Jewish crimes" written by Nazi magazines in the 1930s.
That's some really strong statements. Speaking for myself I don't identify as a genocide loving Zionist.
For what it's worth the article is really dry and cites independent sources, and has quotes from UN officials that say that UNRWA workers were removed. A full internal investigation will take place.
This is how statecraft works. Have you ever wondered why there's no Pride parades on Palestine but there are in Tel Aviv?
Let me ask you using your own rhetoric: "Have you wondered why there is no food in Gaza but there is in Tel Aviv?". Real mystery!
The aid comes through Egypt, ask the Egyptians and whatever arm of Hamas steals it and resells it to normal Palestinians?
A lot of aid was found in the tunnels Hamas forced children to construct instead of hospitals and schools and whatnot.
Netanyahu isn't the answer either, but labelling an entire people as genocidal colonisers is a stretch. Also Sephardic Jews exist.
Last time I checked all the entry points to Gaza were controlled by IDF, so perhaps you should change your narrative. And how many entry points did they open. The reality is that Israel can do everything to alleviate the humanitarian situation in Gaza, by opening enough border crossings, and ensuring that sufficient humanitarian aid is entering the enclave but they consciously decided not to. So stop shifting the blame.
Perhaps you could also try to justify the humanitarian aid looting, stealing, destroying by Israeli people, or the many humanitarian aid workers who lost their lives during this war, etc.
So the IDF controls the border between Gaza and Egypt? You should let Egypt know their border isn't sovereign anymore.
Yes they do. Even if they didn't that excuses nothing about what Israel is doing.
And I guess by your Zionist logic no country has any sovereignty if anybody but themselves controls both sides of the border, which checks out since that's also how Israel seems to think borders work.
So Sephardic Jews exist, not all of them were displaced by the Romans. So your reckless use of the term "Zionist" actually erases one of the oldest continuously existing "western" cultures we have. Greeks? Come and gone, Babylonian rule, sure no problem. Romans? Pretty shitty but whatever. And on and on for the better part of 3000 years.
But do go on about colonialism in literally the oldest confirmed region of human settlement we have outside Eastern Africa.
Wait do you reply to everyone using the term Zionist with that? Because that's some random tangent if I've ever seen one, triggered by a single word. Good derailing tactic though, you completely changed the subject.
I'm not even sure what your point is. Are you confused about what Zionism is? Because that's funny for a Zionist to be confused about. It means you support the existence of a Jewish-supremacist state, and it's a 19th century nationalist idea from Europe. So whatever you're on about is irrelevant. I'm calling you a Zionist, since you clearly support Israel or you wouldn't be taking the time to spread incorrect bullshit in defense of the IDF here.
Maybe you're confused about my comment. Let me explain. You said:
Egypt controls Egypt's side of the border. Israel controls the Gaza side, what with them occupying it. Since that should be pretty obvious, it sounds like you think Egypt, in order to be sovereign, needs to control both sides the border, i.e. invade Gaza.
Which is funny to me, because that obviously defeats the whole purpose of a border. So I'm imaging you as a person who thinks the whole point of a border is that both sides should be controlled by the same state, since that's how Israel does it, and you being a Zionist, you think that's the normal way a border works. So "Zionist logic". This is a funny thought, a person so brainwashed they don't understand that borders are not like a checkpoint between Israel and the West Bank. There, you made me explain the joke.
I'm sorry, I was attempting to make a larger point about the conflict in general. There's this idea that Zionism is a homogeneous idea or that the Jewish people are a singular group of people when in fact they have more divisions within their own culture than anyone else. It's really easy to vilify a caricature or incomplete image of a race or ethnicity which is what I've seen in these discussions up to this point.
Oh ya, I'm sure Israel cares a lot about Palestinian hospitals and schools 🙄
How many of those are left now after Israel has bombed them all?
Also, it's not Hamas blocking or stealing the aid...
Which ones, the ones Hamas were using as staging/headquarters areas, or the weapons depots Hamas placed near schools and hospitals that blew up?
There's no winners in war, but please stop pretending that Hamas is a rational actor in this conflict.
One, that doesn't excuse blowing up schools and hospitals, even if it was true. It makes them way worse than Hamas in every single way. Israel bombing schools, hospitals, and relief agencies isn't some sort of own when Gaza has been left with no running medical system and Israel is still doing war crimes and a genocide. If I was the President, I wouldn't sign off in bombing your neighborhood if a relative of yours did a crime, but then I'm not a genocidal maniac. If I was held hostage and someone blew me up, I'd be way more mad at them than the hostage taker. It's just common sense.
Two, none of that that IDF propaganda has been proven to be true for the places they've blown up in the latest conflict. They stage little photo ops but none of it that I can find has been independently verified, and often it comes out laughably untrue, ruining their credibility further.
Three, it's not a war, it's an apartheid ethnostate occupying territory, doing ethnic cleansing, taking land, and trying to oppress and kill all the indigenous people through genocide over 70 years; and people trying to resist that. Some of those people are terrible, but that's still what it is. The colonizers are the aggressors, the cause of this, any way you slice it.
"When granaries are full, people know etiquette; when they are well-fed and clothed, they understand honor and shame. " People on the brink of starvation do not ponder philosophy. UNRWA does not cultivate Hamas, but Israel's attacks on Palestinians, killing their relatives, and making them hungry and homeless, are the soil that breeds Hamas. I believe that Zionism will become even more frenzied. According to the 1967 two-state solution, Israel should withdraw from Jerusalem, and if the CPC commits to it, they will never go back on their word.
And it looks like actions were taken by the UNRWA against involved employees. But Israel wants the total destruction of the agency just like Palestine.
For the most part Israel regarded the UNRWA as a problematic but ultimately stabilizing influence. Israel started taking umbrage when members of the UNRWA participated in and associated with the Hamas terrorists that raped, murdered, kidnapped men, women and children of many nations and faiths.
So there's that?
I am sorry but could you remind me where the proof of their involvement is.
There was an international independent investigation of UNRWA, that was led by a Colonna, that didn't find links between Hamas and UNRWA (https://www.voanews.com/amp/independent-investigation-finds-unrwa-s-neutrality-strong-but-could-be-improved/7580432.html).
Also Israel didn't provide any proof neither to UNRWA, nor Colonna's investigation nor to any of their so-called allies who rushed to cease the UNRWA funding.
But sure let's take Israel's claims at face value without any critical thinking. They can't be wrong, right, right? /S
And how the UNRWA responded, which, as we've seen time and time again, is never enough for these bloodthirsty ghouls: https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1149081
When will the rest of the world learn that it is pointless to try to placate Israel or treat them as though they are acting in good faith? The whole state is run by genocidal fascists who will never be satisfied by even the most obeisant allies.