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[–] piggy@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

drug discovery

This is mainly hype. The process of creating AI has been useful for drug discovery, LLMs as people practically know them (e.g. ChatGBT) have not other than the same kind of sloppy labor corner cost cutting bullshit.

If you read a lot of the practical applications in the papers it's mostly publish or perish crap where they're gushing about how drug trials should be like going to cvs.com where you get a robot and you can ask it to explain something to you and it spits out the same thing reworded 4-5 times.

They're simply pushing consent protocols onto robots rather than nurses, which TBH should be an ethical violation.

[–] piggy@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Neurosymbolic AI is overhyped. It's just bolting on LLMs to symbolic AI and pretending that it's a "brand new thing" (it's not, it's actually how most LLMs practically work today and have been for a long time GPT-3 itself is neurosymbolic). The advocates of approach pretend that the "reasoning" comes from symbolic AI which is known as classical AI, which still suffers from the same exact problems that it did in the 1970's when the first AI winter happened. Because we do not have an algorithm capable of representing the theory of mind, nor do we have a realistic theory of mind to begin with.

Not only that but all of the integration points between classical techniques and statistical techniques present extreme challenges because in practice the symbolic portion essentially trusts the output of the statistical portion because the symbolic portion has limited ability to validate.

Yeah you can teach ChatGPT to correctly count the r's in strawberry with a neurosymbolic approach but general models won't be able to reasonably discover even the most basic of concepts such as volume displacement by themselves.

You're essentially back at the same problem where you either lean on the symbolic aspects and limit yourself entirely to advanced ELIZA like functionality that can just use classifier or your throw yourself to the mercy of the statistical model and pray you have enough symbolic safeguards.

Either way it's not reasoning, it is at best programming -- if that. That's actually the practical reason why the neurosymbolic space is getting attention because the problem has effectively been to be able to control inputs and outputs for the purposes of not only reliability / accuracy but censorship and control. This is still a Garbage In Garbage Out process.

FYI most of the big names in the "Neurosymbolic AI as the next big thing" space hitched their wagon to Khaneman's Thinking Fast and Slow bullshit that is effectively made up bullshit like Freudianism but lamer and has essentially been squad wiped by the replication crisis.

Don't get me wrong DeepSeek and Duobau are steps in the right direction. They're less proprietary, less wasteful, and broadly more useful, but they aren't a breakthrough in anything but capitalist hoarding of technological capacity.

The reason AI is not useful in most circumstance is because of the underlying problems of the real world and you can't algorithm your way out of people problems.

[–] piggy@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Dawn of War 1. Better yet just computerize table top. I'm antisocial :(

[–] piggy@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

I was a really young nerdy kid, and coming from the Soviet Union like the only thing I cared about was computer. I was obsessed with computer since playing Doom as a kid in a cyber cafe. I got my first computer at the age of 8-9 after we had immigrated. I was about 10 years old when I was trolling AOL chat rooms by myself.... and I had a lovely 640x480 web cam.... and yeah. A lot of this brings up uneasy memories.

I think the horny categorization does fit me. I'm not like a gooner or anything but my partner would agree 100% with the statement: "thinks I'm about to pounce on them and always waits for me to initiate everything. Why people basically see horny as one of my personality traits."

I don't experience issues with non-sexual intimacy, but I wanted to let you know that you're not alone!

[–] piggy@hexbear.net 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

General Strikes are escalated to not planned. That's why the AFL the most idiotic union basically banned escalations into a general strike by requiring striking locals to have national authorization or risk getting kicked out of the union. This was in response to the Seattle General Strike which happened in Feb 1919 and the AFL amended the constition in June 1919. Similary Taft-Hartley which outlaws general strikes in the US was passed in 1947 was a response to the Oakland General Strike of 1946.

Also lol at #3 what is this? 2012?

[–] piggy@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

The reason I disagree is that "dog/cat food" implies it's something that is widely eaten culturally, a "default meal" of sorts. I don't think pate fits the bill there most Americans cannot handle offal. Nuggies sure, but not really pate.

[–] piggy@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

he believes it would actually change things if the facts came out and it was actually the CIA behind it

Ah yes the classic "force the vote" argument.

[–] piggy@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think that criteria is a bit too loose. In the American context liver pate would qualify.

[–] piggy@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Should be fine. Taste may be every so slightly affected if you don't wash them. They're not really being cooked, and the smoke isn't concentrated enough at that distance to "cold smoke" them. In a perverse way they might actually come out better because smoke carries potassium which is part and parcel of plant nutrition.

In reality given the last several years of crazy North American wildfires almost everyone has eaten produce that was affected by wild fire smoke in this way.

[–] piggy@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

if time travelers kidnapped a few thousand scientists, engineers, and so forth from the present and took them back thousands of years and dropped them naked in the post-glacial northern european steppes, ... they certainly aren't building a chip manufacturing plant to start making computers.

You can blame British adventure novels for this bullshit idea. Every other day a Kickstarter of "THE END OF THE WORLD BOOK WHERE YOU CAN BUILD COMPUTER FROM SAND AFTER NUCLEAR BOMB" gets launched.

the apparent contrast of "low-tech" and "high-tech" is only going to feel like a contradiction to people (like me) who have internalized liberal economic theory based on the notion that value is ultimately created by the very smartest of fail-children having the very best ideas.

As an immigrant form the former Soviet Union, it's not liberal economic theory notions. Plenty of Post Soviet Liberal morons out there with the same notions. It's living in a rich country where you are isolated from the practicalities of the systems that shape your life.

This Archer clip on the origin of meat (before it becomes dictatorial lulziness) sums up the distinction nicely:

https://youtu.be/JHMJxFICUjk?t=57

One of the things that most Soviet Intelligentsia complained about was the fact that as students they had to work on Kolhozes (communal farms) during college summer break. But because of that everyone in the Soviet Union effectively had an intimate and direct relationship with their food supply chain. At one point (when all forms of back filling fail e.g. trade, stockpiling, etc), someone has to pick the food, fire or no fire. Otherwise nobody eats. The practical problem here is how to make that as fair and as safe as possible. This is why communist theory is the theory of misery.

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