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You did it again! The gap between imprisonment and chattel slavery is much larger than the gap between imprisonment and wage slavery.

There is no way that Elizabeth Holmes would submit to chattel slavery, but she calls imprisonment "hell," and she is far off the mark. https://people.com/elizabeth-holmes-breaks-her-silence-in-first-interview-from-prison-it-s-been-hell-and-torture-exclusive-8789737

They are denied one specific grant for higher education, but they are taught for free within the prison system and can pay for outside education themselves. This is different from being barred by law from learning to read.

Your link does not say that they are denied by law from testifying in abuse cases. It just says that prison abuse happens.

Their children are more likely to end up in prison, but they are not bound by law to the prison that their parents were in.

Prisons do not force divorce.

By saying that imprisonment is literally slavery, you are absolutely minimizing the horrors of chattel slavery.

You called me a centrist, but I'm really a progressive with a brain. We have the same goals. I'm the only one who presented a realistic way of reaching them.

All you got from voting blue no matter who was universal healthcare, gay rights, sanctions on settlers, emissions reductions, banking regulations, etc. By continuing to vote blue no matter who, all you would have gotten was the public option (single payer), continued emissions reductions via cap and trade or carbon tax, universal childcare, progress towards the two state solution (via follow through on the Oslo Accords instead of Iraqi shenanigans), trans rights, etc. All you got by burning everything down was faster genocide, removing healthcare subsidies, more oil dependence, removal of black and minority history from national parks, the Iran war, mass removal of legal status followed by deportation, etc. Even if you aren't directly harmed because you're sitting in a position of privilege, burning everything down has real and immediate consequences for the people you claim you want to help, me among them.

You say you're not a conservative or a Russian bot, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... Now if you'd like to debate what actually works instead of throwing innuendo around, be my guest. I'll watch your reply.

Whoosh. Reread the thread, champ.

Easy. Vote blue no matter who. Then primary the party further left. That's the only workable solution. If anyone tells you otherwise, ask them on which planet their solution works. You think NYC could have gone straight from Giuliani to Mamdani? Fuhgeddaboudit.

New London School is joke to you?

You're whitewashing how bad chattel slavery was. Slaves were separated from their spouses by sale. Slaves' children were automatically enslaved. Slaves were legally barred from being educated. They were not allowed to testify in court, so even laws against extreme abuse could not be enforced.