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Easy. Vote blue no matter who. Then primary the party further left. That's the only workable solution. If anyone tells you otherwise, ask them on which planet their solution works. You think NYC could have gone straight from Giuliani to Mamdani? Fuhgeddaboudit.
I will never again simply vote blue no matter who. You game the progressives, we will just game you back 10x. Its only fair. and dont play chicken with us, you will 100% lose. I am a lot more interested in just burning it all down than you centrist zionist-check-cashers are. I voted blue no matter who for my whole life and all I've gotten from the centrists is a constant belittling, locked out of everything, backstabbed, lied to, and called names.
One thing you "vote blue no matter who" people fail to understand is that the reason republicans hate the dems so much is not that they strongly beleive in the issues they draw their battle lines on, but that they hate the way dem centrists belittle them, and they hate how the economy has made their future hopeless while lecturing them about how much they suck-- you know, the same arrogance that led you to post your comment. Right wingers may feel some affinity for the issues too, but the issues are essentially just battlegrounds. Slapping dems in the face is their actual point they want to win on. The cruelty is always 99% of the point with them. They will even happily hurt their own or themselves, as long as it primarily hurts those they hate.
Now the idiot centrists have lost the left flank of their base doing the same thing. Centrists need to realize that if you dont approach people with at least some feigned interest and feigned respect and listen to them, that they will not come to your table, and you will ultimately be powerless. Learn how to be in a coalition and how to negotiate, or effing fail, centrists. You cant win over trump-fatigued republicans either if you keep calling them names and rubbing their noses in shit.
You centrists keep sitting there thinking the voters will just come back to you through trump fatigue-- while you keep using the exact same playbook you have been, but polling shows the voters hate dems centrists even more than they hate trump-- still.
You called me a centrist, but I'm really a progressive with a brain. We have the same goals. I'm the only one who presented a realistic way of reaching them.
All you got from voting blue no matter who was universal healthcare, gay rights, sanctions on settlers, emissions reductions, banking regulations, etc. By continuing to vote blue no matter who, all you would have gotten was the public option (single payer), continued emissions reductions via cap and trade or carbon tax, universal childcare, progress towards the two state solution (via follow through on the Oslo Accords instead of Iraqi shenanigans), trans rights, etc. All you got by burning everything down was faster genocide, removing healthcare subsidies, more oil dependence, removal of black and minority history from national parks, the Iran war, mass removal of legal status followed by deportation, etc. Even if you aren't directly harmed because you're sitting in a position of privilege, burning everything down has real and immediate consequences for the people you claim you want to help, me among them.
You say you're not a conservative or a Russian bot, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... Now if you'd like to debate what actually works instead of throwing innuendo around, be my guest. I'll watch your reply.
walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.
And I dont see that your way is at all realistic or a way to reach them. Its a way to do exactly what they want for exactly nothing in return.