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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

you were talking about FPTP and asked if I wanted dems to lose instead

Incorrect

Want I said was “What do you want them to do, try to lose, instead?”

Can you compare and contrast those two statements and why they are radically different?

There was also a pretty central point I made towards the end of the message, which you seem to have missed. I’ll give a hint: It was that quite a lot of Democrats have been s_ppor_ing efforts to reform the voting system so that third parties could have a decent chance of winning

And I had a link which listed quite a lot of them by name

Can you fill in the missing two letters in my fill in the blank? I’m tryin to make it easy to recall my argument here, which you seem to have missed in a particular ironic fashion hence the whole runaround of asking you what I had said.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I don’t think you are a bot, no. I think you forgot what I said, and what you replied with had absolutely no bearing on any point that I made or the link I included. You just kinda had something you wanted to say, and didn’t notice the relationship that existed between the points that I had made and the things you were typing “in response” to them, just kind of went ahead with typing your talking points as if I hadn’t said something that related to them in a pretty direct way.

So… what was it? I mean, you made a reply to me, so presumably you were responding in some sense to what I wrote down, so you should be able to skim your reply and recall what I linked to and remember your thought process when you were typing it up in response to the reply that you definitely read and understood. Right? Or not?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Hmm fascinating

So, I just now edited to take away my comment that you were responding to. Can you tell me what my comment said before I edited it? I.e. what parts of it you were responding to when you typed your response?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (20 children)

(Temporarily removed to make a point. Here’s the original comment, now restored:)

The Democrats’ etc etc is yet another example of their fear of things that will lose them elections in the FPTP system. What do you want them to do, try to lose, instead? Say “yes split the vote so the other people will win and start shooting everyone’s pets on sight if they look Mexican or whatever our opponents want to do?”

Reform the voting system

If only some of the supporters of that reform were Democrats, it might be gaining traction in some places

Oh wait

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 11 months ago

It is registered as a bot and shows for me as a bot. I prefer to keep it around and heckle it as opposed to “out of sight out of mind.”

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 98 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (13 children)

Almost.

  • Nuclear energy comes from natural materials of the earth that arrived in their current form (it is basically recycled supernova energy from long long ago)
  • Geothermal comes ultimately from the gravitational energy of the earth itself compressing and heating it

Literally every other energy source (edit: aside from tidal and some others that people pointed out) is some form of modified and stored sunlight, in some way or another.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 11 months ago (7 children)

The interfaces are relatively modern too, with VGA and a PS/2 keyboard.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 12 points 11 months ago

The other politician: Everyone is mean to me and calls me weird. They're STUPID. Not like my really good friend who just gave me money. The best friend. Amazing friend. I'm putting them in a position of power.

Also I want literally the opposite of everything good on literally every single policy available

(Except maybe abortion; I’ve got some experience with that one and let me tell you it’s a life saver. I won’t stop my allies from making it illegal, nothing like that, but personally I can definitely say I’m a fan.)

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 11 months ago

The oil has peaked, so the economics have changed. They don’t need to maximize the total amount sold per year anymore; they just need to make the most of what’s left.

Economics Explained, I think, called it “the party at the end of the world.” It’s also why they’re posting record profits - they don’t to invest anything into the future anymore; they can just keep it, for the most part.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 11 months ago

I think more than 40% of normal IT projects fail

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Every little bit helps

Also it helps that he’s going progressively off the rails as time goes on, so his reaction to getting caught for this stuff is getting less and less hinged month by month

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just thought maybe you two might know each other. Maybe you could ask him about responding to my question, and then I’ll get back to debunking your talking points? I really would like to of course but it’s bothering me that he doesn’t want to teach me about the US voting system. Makes it hard to focus on talking about a whole bunch of new topics besides the super important McDonalds’ thing we were talking about before.

 

This stupid topic again

But sure

 

Polls are crap

It’s a little bit notable how they change over time, but mostly it is just a bunch of poor methodology noise

But, I do feel it’s relevant to point out that even in polling land Biden has been gaining for the last few weeks and it’s notable which media outlets are pretending it is the opposite of that (like severely the opposite) and to wonder why that is

 
  • There are 229 accounts in Lemmy that have used the phrase “Democratic Party” more than once in the last 6 months or so.
  • There are 188 that have used the phrase “Republican Party” more than once.
  • There are 25 that have used the phrase “Democrat Party” more than once

Having "Democrat Party" (or similar constructions like "Democrat voters") be unusual on Lemmy makes perfect sense. It's something I pretty much never hear outside of conservative circles. It always sounds really weird to me and I don’t think it would ever occur to me to use it. It’s not surprising that it’s so rare on Lemmy.

What is unusual is that there's quite a bit of overlap between accounts that use this unusual phrasing that's pretty much only seen from conservatives, and accounts that claim to be opposing the Democrats from the left -- giving reasons and arguments why Lemmy users should not vote for the Democrats, because they are not doing enough to advance a leftist agenda (or, that voting is not worthwhile, or similar things.)

The conclusion is left for the reader. I am, honestly, a little bit on the fence about listing the accounts or going into the data. I decided it would be drama-inducing to list accounts specifically; honestly, it's useful and informative detail, but it would create some heat without light, probably, and there's no reason to think that 100% of the accounts that are part of the overlap are what the obvious conclusion would be that a lot of them are. I'm going to simply state the conclusion, and anyone who wants to replicate the data for themselves is welcome to do so.

I did ask two of the accounts that were part of the overlap what was up with it, and neither of them answered me, although a third party did chime in with this explanation:

I've had various liberals tell me Democrat was a form of dog whistle or sign I'm a right winger. One person started to dig into my mutual aid info trying to figure out if I was a Russian bot because I said "Democrat" instead of Democratic. I've tried to Democratic as a noun, and it felt grammatically incorrect. "I'm running as a Democatic." "The current majority in the house is with the Democratics."

Personally I think "Democrat" works for both candidate, party, and voter. "Biden is the Democrat's Nominee" vs "Biden is the Democratic nominee".

 

I hate that this is the debate we’re having now

I also hate that I’m feeding into the NYT’s lazy and transparent attempt to undo their previous partisanship with new opposite partisanship like those two things cancel out and add up to journalism

But what the hell, if that’s where we’re at, this is a relevant data point about the landscape

 
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