You keep using left and liberal like they’re interchangeable when they absolutely aren’t.

In 2016 the left went for Bernie sanders, who had an economic populist platform that spoke to the grievances that came from 2008. The democrats - liberals - kneecapped him and shunned his supporters.

It’s the liberals who took minorities for granted and are now turning on them now that they’re no longer useful. It’s the liberals who thought they could just run on demographics and identity politics alone and not bother with a real platform other than “we’re not trump”. I find it pretty offensive that you lump the mythical “left” in this country with liberals. There’s very few actual leftists and whole lot of liberals who think they’re left because they want to reform capitalism with social democracy instead of overthrow it like it deserves to be.

I’d be considered a somewhat anti immigration leftist, because I work in an industry that undercuts local labor and imports cheaper J1s and H1Bs. During covid, instead of a merit raise of 10-50 cents we got a three dollar + raise because they couldn’t import foreign labor for cheap. Tight immigration used to be a somewhat left wing stance, economic protectionism. Loose immigration just benefits business owners and fucks over labor. Obviously we’re a nation of immigrants and we need immigration but we also need to clamp down hard on businesses who take advantage of cheap labor to fuck over American labor like myself. I hate that the immigration conversation focuses on “illegals” and not on businesses fucking over American labor by hiring cheaper legal and illegal labor instead.

And I think race is overplayed of an issue when it comes to immigration. A large quantity of immigrants coming in are not English speakers, most are Spanish speakers. I’m from NY originally and I’ve been gone for almost a decade living in the whitest state ever and I had to go home to take care of my mom - I heard almost entirely Spanish being spoken many places instead of English. When I grew up it was English 90% of the time and now it’s Spanish probably 40-50% of the time. That’s culturally shocking and it’s fair for English speakers to be irritated by it and feel like they’re being replaced. I have a ton of respect for people who speak more than one language but due to a brain injury I’m not capable of it despite trying. It’s crazy to see how much my hometown changed in the decade I’ve been gone. It’s unrecognizable.

Also it shouldn’t be controversial to say certain places are getting completely overwhelmed by immigrants. Of course the liberals will paint you as a rAcIsT for saying so but look at how hard they lost this election to see how tired people are of their bullshit.

We have a racist history that bleeds into the present day no doubt but not everything is because of race.

Yeah they realized they’re not invincible. I’m 50/50 about him being the guy. Part of the story checks out (his backstory) and part doesn’t (such a clean kill and getaway and then get caught in bumblefuck pa at a McDs?)

Well I definitely don’t have that lol

Who is this “militant left” and how are they acting anything like liberals? It’s the liberals who are vote blue no matter who, oh we lost an election let’s go even further right to court voters who will never vote for us while pissing off our base so we can once again lose an election.

There’s millions of people with the traumatic experience of dealing with healthcare companies, millions of people with guns, and maybe thousands with the skills to get in range of potential targets. But the center of a Venn diagram of all three would make for the next potential shooter.

We’re sitting on a tinder box. The working class is fuming at the cost of living, and even the better off and low end of the capitalist class (unbelievably I know) are suffering under our health care system. This guy is a class traitor. He could of been a capitalist, he was born to a capitalist family that owned multiple successful businesses he theoretically could of taken over. But his pain likely radicalized him towards a different path…

He just needed to make it to a country that doesn’t extradite. I find it surprising he had to know how to find this guy at the right place and time, successfully shoot him despite the gun not firing right, and get away from the crime in surveillance dystopia NYC. He succeeded in all of that and then got caught with all the evidence right on him in a McDs in bumblefuck PA? It makes no sense. Unless he wanted to get caught? Murder clouded his judgement after? He’s not the guy?

The system is definitely criminal alright

Even if he’s scum of the earth (doubt it) the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

He seems run of the mill rich gen z tech bro with serious back problems. Which makes his points even stronger being a traitor to his class. Assuming he’s the shooter.

This story isn’t going away and the rich -especially those rich from blatantly problematic industries - should be scared.

There’s a very deep genuine anger in this country and it’s tied to emotionally charged life or death issues. I’m just surprised it’s taken this long for the powder keg to start to blow…

Ok but can you explain because I’m not seeing the connection.

No, that’s the fake reason. They don’t give a shit about data. The real reason is they can’t control the algorithm to make sure Americans stay the brainwashed bootlickers most of them are.