And cuz he's an aThEiSt

i pitty every trans person still holding out there.

I wonder why they are even in there tbh. Like what's the appeal at this point?

claiming that queer people are faking it is incredibly and offensive. Stop doing it. You would not claim that a black man isn't really black because he says something you disagree with because you'd get knocked the hell out. Don't claim people's identities are fake because our politics are to the left of yours. You're literally just abusing other lgbt people with that sentiment by essentially stating "unless your politics align with mine I will deny you the right to your gender".

That's precisely what a Russian shill would say to try to obfuscate the issue. I would know, I learned about whataboutism and those tactics in my political science 101 class. I only had to take that class because its a required core elective for my STEMlord degree. So back the fuck off TANKIE!

You guys all rent, so I was wondering: how much should I charge? Comparables around here are $900-1200/mo, but I don't want to screw the guy.

It hurts to be previously friends with someone who gives you the cold shoulder once they find out you don't want to fuck them.

I guess in that case there was never really a friendship to begin with.

what societal change do you think needs to occur about this issue?

Maybe reverse the trend of turning dating into a commodified market for one. Apps like Tinder have really made looks be the sole factor in whether you even want to talk to someone. It's become so gamified that we essentially treat potential partners as some kind of stock investment. Also the digital world has really isolated us and we rarely even talk to people anymore except through text or instagram. I think electronic communication is great (I mean here I am commenting on hexbear) but not at the expense of real life contact (hence the "touch grass" meme). Maybe have community centers that actually appeal to people? I dunno, perhaps we need to look at what the Soviets and other cultures do to help people meet each other (https://youtu.be/teZw4-trPuE?feature=shared).

People say this, but let's be honest the "friend zone" is something most people experience, it just go cringe to use because of the way incels use it. Having romantic feelings for someone while trying to have a plutonic relationship with them is a frustrating thing to navigate. The issue is people getting an immature victimhood complex about it.

Yeah the whole incel thing has really poisoned the well on a legitimate issue like this. It's kind of funny how some leftists will talk about context when it comes to the faults of former AES states but on other issues (especially ones like this, i.e. dating) they completely ignore context and sound like your average lib. Oh well I guess we all have to continue to grow.

Also if it something you can't handle, better off just avoiding the person and trying to move on. Hoping plutonic friendship leads to romantic love is usually a fools errand.

I mean it works out for some people I suppose (for ex UlyssessT in this thread) but yeah I think remaining friends while still holding out hope is disingenuous.

I honestly think dunking on someone for this just kind of shows emotional immaturity

Maybe it seems silly from the outside, and you think they should just get over it, but I think people deserve empathy and support as much as possible. Ideally we can help people work through their shit and not let this little blip in their lives come to define them.

Yeah it definitely is a shitty feeling, and those that try to convince you it's not are honestly trying to gaslight you (whether intentionally or not).

What the fuck man, is this a real concern average people have that I’m way too fucking alienated to understand

Yes it is a real concern. And honestly, I think leftists are terrible at giving dating advice, especially when it comes to men. There are some considerate leftists that actually give concrete advice (like start exercising, find clothes that fit better, maybe trim the beard so it looks nice, get a good haircut or shave it completely if balding, try to look people in the eye instead of looking down all the time, learn small talk, learn banter, learn how to express romantic interest, find that difference between confident and creepy and know when you've crossed it, etc.) Most of the "advice" I see is just "don't be a r!pist!" and "don't harass women!" Like bro that's obvious, but to the guy that's constantly getting rejected, especially when apps like Tinder make it so the a few super good looking guys pretty much clean house (and this dynamic absolutely spills over into offline interactions), there needs to be better advice.

When this advice is lacking, or people dismiss these young men because "there are so many other problems why would I care about MEN!", this can lead to alienated young men finding their way into reactionary spaces. In this case a little prevention is worth ten tons of cure.

And lastly, I'll say this, it's completely disingenuous to remain "friends" with someone after you've been friendzoned if you initially had romantic feelings for them and those romantic feelings still persist. Unless your feelings magically also changed to platonic ones, then there's a relational imbalance that will always linger. It's better to just say "hey I like you in a more romantic way and even though you want to be friends, perhaps it's better that we don't hang out."

Would it have anything to do with police officers having training and tools that are specifically used to avoid injury and death?

Maybe for themselves but they sure do cause injury and death to others. And besides, most officer on the job deaths are from eating too many donuts and getting cardiac failure (which pretty much all the "death on the job" stats for police conveniently avoid mentioning)

"idle hands are the devil's work" but also "god rested on the seventh day".... uh oh my brain is short-circuiting....