[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago

Well, save your money and buy a PC then.

[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago

Ja, das ist eine gute Frage. Ist ja nicht so, als ob wir beständig versuchen, sie aus der Gesellschaft auszusperren...

[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago

I'm willing to be convinced by reason and evidence, but you have provided neither.

I don't care about your opinion AT ALL.

[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I’m afraid that’s just an ad hominem, not an argument.

And no, I don’t have a problem figuring out where you stand on the issue, but since you apparently can’t even defend your position without resorting to insults, this seems to be a clear case of “you can’t reason anyone out of an opinion which by reason they never acquired”.

[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago

Not as ridiculous as you, who, having made no arguments whatsoever, just comes barging in two days later just to give their opinion on the matter.

[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today -1 points 11 months ago

Well I’m not arguing that what he did should be illegal, just that I consider it bad taste.

It’s like if I went and did a standup routine consisting of Holocaust jokes and then a couple of years later complained about a rise in antisemitism.

If he was serious, he should at least publicly acknowledge that he DID contribute to the issue and formally distance himself from his old work. Otherwise, it just seems rather disingenuous.

[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You're working on the assumption that violence just creates random inequality whenever it occurs, rather than that the use of violence in our current system is a tool used with intent to maintain the status quo.

Well, you’re working on the assumption that violence CAN be used to create both inequality and equality, it just depends on who is using it. Since it’s obviously nonsensical to argue that it’s literally the person that’s making the difference (otherwise, monarchy could potentially do just as good a job at creating or maintaining equality as communism could), it must be the intention behind the use of violence that makes the difference.

That leads to the unproven assertion that it is the intention of capitalism to create unjust inequality, when instead the intention is to allow people to freely choose their employment or source of income based on what they do best, and reward people based on how much they contribute to society.

Sure, you can say that maybe that used to be the case at one point and it’s all gone out of whack since then, but that would only prove that intention doesn’t guarantee outcome, hence there would be no reason to assume that communism would have any better chance at creating a better outcome for everyone in the long run.

Deciding we shouldn't make any change to our economic system because police would still be necessary is, frankly, an absurd stance to take. To be clear, communism is not an alternative to democracy, it's an economic not political system, though of course its ideals do align with democracy.

If communism isn’t a political system, why does it require a revolution in order to implement? If it’s only about economics, then it should be possible to implement on a smaller scale (say, a single company) in any political system. And if it is so clearly superior to capitalism, then such a company would outperform its competitors and naturally lead to a proliferation of communism that way, because most or all of its competitors would end up adopting it. Yet you never see any communists arguing for that sort of approach, it’s always “smash everything with fist first and then rebuild from the ashes”. That’s why I can’t help but feel like violence is, in fact, the whole point.

So you don't support any political system? Or do you have some magic solution in which everyone magically lives in harmony?

Neither. I don’t support any political system because politics is simply arguing about who gets to point the gun at whom. Any political solution to anything always involves violence. And I don’t have a magical solution either because the only alternative I see is to educate people in order to help them realize this, in the hopes that one day, enough people will see that there can, in fact, never be a political solution without violence, and therefore stop looking for such solutions and instead work together to try and resolve their disputes on their own instead of looking for another powerful man with a gun to get them what’s theirs.

[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Unfortunately, unless you also follow the Bible to a larger degree than they do, it makes you just as much of a hypocrite.

[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago

violence isn't part of democracy itself.

That’s where you wrong, because violence IS part of democracy, since the majority gets to inflict its will on the minority (or at least choose representatives who will do so on their behalf) via the use of the police, who are authorized to use any violence necessary in order to get people to comply with the laws.

If communism doesn’t have any plans for achieving their goals without the use of police (or violent enforcers by any other name), then it stands to reason that it will just be violence-based as that which is it seeks to replace, and therefore just as prone to causing inequality among people, regardless of its intentions.

As I said before, violence will never lead to peace, at best you will get a temporary truce whenever people are tired of fighting. But it will always be prone to erupt again. That’s why I don’t support communism. And yes, I don’t support democracy, monarchy, or dictatorship either, for the same reason.

[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago

Oh, okay, I think I see what you meant now, excuse me for misinterpreting that.

No, I have never reported anyone for saying “eat the rich” or anything like that, nor would I, because I don’t see it as a credible or immediate thread. I understand that it’s usually just meant as a metaphor; it’s people blowing off steam or venting their frustration, not a suggestion to resort to immediate cannibalism.

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever reported anyone on social media, unless it was spam or advocating for child rape. I might report doxxing if I ever came across it but it hasn’t happened so far. Does that answer your question?

[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today -1 points 11 months ago

Yes, I know, but what do you expect me to say when you don't respond to any of my other arguments?

[-] FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago

Well I'm glad we can at least agree that genocide isn't ideal and generally a suboptimal way to solve any problems.

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