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just want to say OP, this thread won't get the attention it deserves but this is genuinely an all time classic, i thank you for your service reporting from the depths of the liberal trenches

not the indoor fake ahh grass brewing company roof facade complete with fairy lights

bring back trepanning to gently drain the slurs from the caucasian brain

at this point he's an honorary italian, they can claim him if they want lmao

i deffo agree with both the soviet sci-fi aesthetic being a part of the broader soviet aesthetic whole, and more grounded depictions of solar-punk being worthwhile

it is a hopeful vision of the future in the same way soviet sci-fi is, which as far as ive experienced doesn't usually flesh out the details of how exactly the soviet state withers away

soviet sci-fi usually acted as more of an inspiration for those who were already educated by a communist state, solar-punk acts as a inspiration for the much more niche community of eco-socialists in a similar way, in that regard they are only superficial as much as imaginary hopeful socialist futures in general are superficial

i agree the ideas should be fleshed out more in general over time, but i disagree that the aesthetic is more narrow than the soviet sci-fi aesthetic, just that it is more that it is younger and more niche

soviet sci-fi as a movement was mainstream, made and consumed in AES, and worked off of the then real and plausible belief the soviet economic planning would eventually turn into interstellar communism

solar-punk as a movement while inherently against infinite growth and therefore capitalism, is much more niche due to existing in capitalism and state capitalism, much younger, and largely formed in hopeful reaction to the capitalist-realist dystopia. similar to acid communism it uses an eye-catching aesthetic to promote itself, it uses the aesthetic primarily to inspire hope in eco-socialists and combat activist burnout

i would largely say it is eco-socialism's counterpart to soviet sci-fi, it imagines the world eco-socialism would create, working to inspire eco-socialists as soviet sci-fi inspired the soviets

the dispossessed is more like a thematic foundation for solar-punk, the ecologically sustainable anarcho-syndicalism is explored in new ways, in the same way that most cyberpunk media doesn't exactly mirror neuromancer or explore all aspects of that particular society (albeit cyberpunk being a capitalist-realist cry for help for an incoming doom that came and went, and solar-punk being more of an ecological/sociological example of what could be)

me when there's no funny football emotes to express me lmao at finding out columbus crew is a MLS team

shit that is really funny

so considering the soviet sci-fi art movement when the USSR dissolved was about six times older than solar-punk as an art movement is now, proportionally you would need to post roughly twenty two more examples of labourer-focused soviet sci-fi art to meet the same level of representation of the four credible examples of labourer-focused solar-punk art

i apologize in advance, the maximum comment depth was reached, this comment is a reply to https://hexbear.net/comment/6331483

i brought it up as a counter example to the dispossessed on soviet sci-fi, before i ever called the dispossessed a foundational piece of solar-punk media

but i will agree that at the time, the concept of communism becoming a interstellar society was very real to those living in the USSR

in the material circumstance of ursula living in cold war era america, anarcho-syndicalism being applied to build socialism in a theoretical future interstellar capitalist system seemed much more plausible, which is also why the dispossessed had a second boost of popularity when solar-punk started up as a movement in between the dissolution of the USSR by capitalist encroachment and the rise of china as a second communist superpower