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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

What "both global regimes"?

Politics is not just Communism vs Capitalism - there is a massive range in politics which is obvious when one starts looking at various implementations of supposedly the same thing (both those under the "Communist" label and those under the "Capitalist" one) and it turns out they're doing vastly different things.

It's exactly that wholy artificial reductivism of politics to two "regimes" that ends up with American Hard Neoliberals thinking that Anarchists or other unaligned leftwing thinkers must be "Tankies" because they don't unquestionably accept Neoliberal dogma and whatever the DNC is pushing out today at the same time as Chinese CCP muppets think those very same people must be "Capitalist Pigs" because they don't just unquestionably accept CCP dogma and whatever their politicians are pushing out today.

It's exactly the reduction of it all down to Capitalist vs Communist, US vs China, Us vs Them that's the display of political ignorance I was pointing outr in my previous post - there is a ton of takes on what's best for Society and how best to get there, and many of those are square pegs that can't really be hammered into the round holes labelled "Communism" and "Capitalism" (or pro-America, pro-China, for those people who are Nationalists and like to see everything as nations).

So even "Denialism" (which is not at all the same as Skepticism) is only "a biased view towards one regime or another" if you start from the falacious position that there are only two "regimes" and deny all other ideas of what's best for society and how best to get there: that idea that not being for one "regime" implies being for the other is only "logical" if you start from the false axiom that there are two and only two possibilities, which in the broader Politics of the World isn't even close to reality.

That said, I can understand how people who grew up in Power Duopoly fake Democracies with only ever two viable "choices" have been trained their whole lives to see the entire universe of Politics as having only two options.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

READ THE SECOND LINE.

They de facto only blocked from attending people who didn't needed to attend.

This press release of theirs is another example of the traditional technique in British Modern Politics (and not only there, but in Britain using that kind of thing is a fucking art form) of presenting a miniscule barely bothersome action on something that goes along the direction the public wants as a massive action in that direction whilst in fact not really doing anything in any way effective in the direction that the public wants.

It's like when they loudly announced they had "Limited arms sales to Israel" some months ago and then in the details it turned out that they had blocked about 20 categories of weaponry out over 300 (and this all the while they kept flying surveillance flights over Gaza to give the info to Israel).

Smoke & Mirrors.

These people are professional deceivers and hypocrites.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

From the point of view of the political simpletons in the US (who obviously are not all the Americans, but certainly are all the ones parroting talking points from the Democrat Establishment or from the Republicans), having any political beliefs to left of theirs (and, as Neoliberals, they're so far to the Right that everything else but outright Fascism is to the left of them) is a Tankie.

It's both an example of the Dunning-Krugger Effect in the domain of Politics (everything else but the mainstream politics in their pseudo-Democracy is perceived as one big blob called "Communism" because they're extremely ignorant of the broader discipline of Politics), and a rehashing of the good old MacCartist propaganda, with the difference that the neoliberals care about appearences so instead of calling all lefties "Commies" or "Reds" (which nowadays marks one as a derranged MacCarthist), they call all leftwingers "Tankies".

It's actually interesting that the reaction of the Democratic Party Establishment to the rise of Leftwing ideas amongst the population there and even Leftwing personalities in their own party, is to reboot MacCarthist-style Propaganda but with slightly different keywords to avoid negative associations in people's mind's with MacCarthism - in the last couple of months, here in Lemmy the usual US Democrat Party Tribalist Muppets (you know the kind: the people that will say that leftwingers who didn't vote for the Democrat presidential candidate are to blame for the Gaza Genocide because "not voting Harris is the same as voting Trump" and Trump supports that Genocide) have almost as a choir started pushing the messaging that people with ideas to the left of the mainstream US Democrat Party Politicians are Tankies.

A subset of this new Propaganda attack has been accusing anybody who doesn't without question believe what the Press in the US aligned with the Democrat Party and the politicians says about China are in fact China supporters (a variant of the good old "If you're not with us you must be with them" technique so beloved by Far-Right parties).

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Any nation state claiming to represent the entirety of the Jewish People gets a "Free Holocaust Pass (Valid For Executing One Holocaust ONLY)".

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

"If God forbid" *fingers crossed* "a terrible tragedy happens" ...

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

Ratchet Effect baby, Ratchet Effect!

It's funny how so many of the policies of Eisenhower - a Republican - are too much to the Left for the present day Democrat Party.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

I thought "tankie" was the new "commie" but maybe that's just for DNC true believers because calling people with even the slightest leftwing ideas or who are skeptical of the political propaganda from the US a "Communist", is too obvious Red Scare-style Propaganda and unlike the fans of the outright Fascist party, the fans of the Fascism-adjacent party actually care about keeping up appearances.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

In before the usual suspects making posts about how everybody is a tankie for not believing America has the best system in the World...

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Fascism in Portugal lasted from 1933 to 1974.

In Spain it lasted from 1936 to 1975.

Fascism did fail (specifically, in Portugal there was a Revolution and in Spain the Fascists just gave power away whilst keeping their loot) but it took about 50 years in both cases.

Had Hitler and Mussolini not gone to war with basically most of the World, I wouldn't be at all surprised if their regimes hadn't lasted until well after both died (which was what happened in both Portugal and Spain - those regimes only fell a while after after Salazar and Franco were dead).

Meanwhile just to give you an idea of how bad things can be under Fascism without people rebelling, Portugal during the Fascist days was a dirt poor country with mainly subsistence agriculture which even received Food Aid from the rest of Europe and this without even having gone through a war. Just a reminder that during the Age of the Discoveries, both Portugal and Spain were for a while (about a century) the pinnacle powers in the World to the point that they divided it in half between themselves (which is why in South America Brasil speaks Portuguese and the rest speak Spanish and why most Portuguese "colonies" were in Africa whilst Spain was mostly present in South America), so it's not as if those weren't rich countries at some point.

So, yeah, you're right that Fascism always falls (then again, so does everything else), but it can take a while to get there and entire generations can suffer horribly before things change.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I've seen and at still seeing exactly what the previous poster describe happen in my hometown, Lisbon, as the politicians for the last 2 decades invested ever harder in Tourism as the solution for the country's problems (which are mainly rooted in a management culture of profound incompetence - I lived 20 years abroad so I can see it for the shit it is by comparison - and insane levels of cronyism) rather than, you know, actually trying to solve them (the local politicians are basically the worst managers from what is maybe the worst management culture in Europe, so their "management" of the country reflects that).

Towns which mainly grew up from some little fishing village or similar through Tourism and which are mainly dedicated to it now is one thing (and there are many of those in Portugal, especially in Algarve), established cities which got taken over by Tourism is a whole different thing: it's one thing when 3 or 4 small fishing operations end up closing down because the Tourism Economy took over and a handful of people have to leave in search of jobs in their area, a whole different thing is when an entire established Economy of a city of a million people starts being undermined by Tourism and things like Tech are slowly pushed out because the city has become too expensive for the young people that normally work Tech or in fact for just about every recent University graduate (basically if you weren't earning enough to buy your house back in the time before Tourism took over, you're screwed).

Tourism will pull an Economy up from low value added activities such as Subsistence Agriculture or Fishing, but it will pull an Economy down from higher value added activities such as for example Tech - you don't need Engineers to make beds in hotels or serve drinks to tourists.

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