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Pope Francis condemned the "very strong, organised, reactionary attitude" in the US church and said Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the US Catholic Church, saying they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Francis’ comments were an acknowledgment of the divisions in the US Catholic Church, which has been split between progressives and conservatives who long found support in the doctrinaire papacies of St John Paul II and Benedict XVI, particularly on issues of abortion and same-sex marriage.

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[-] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Isn't god supposed to be unchanging according to their book?

[-] Brown5500@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's actually more of a doctrine that is made up by the organization and less something explicitly stated in the book. There probably are some psalms or other references that use the word (translated as) "unchanging", but in context, the original audience would probably not have interpreted it in the same way. Think God's love and power will never fail, not God will literally never experience anything or change. In the 10 commandments story, Moses has a conversation with god and changes his mind.

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[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

Fuckin hell America, you annoyed the fuckin Pope?

That's usually reserved for genocidal maniacs 😂

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[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean he's right, but maybe he wants to add his institution to that list as well.

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[-] Whatsupdude@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Religion in general is pretty backwards as well.

[-] Squirrel_Patrol@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Those are the same people who called Jesus weak so I think it's a bit late for the pope to weigh in

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Has he met the Catholic Church?

Inquisitions? Witch burning? Who does he think did extremism biggest and best?

Sure, now they mostly just coverup for paedophiles and rampant baby murder at orphanages, but they were the OG extremists, let’s not kid ourselves.

[-] Soulg@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

The pope: "maintaining rigid and unchanging ideology is bad and room for change and growth must be allowed"

You: "um excuse me but hundreds of years ago the church killed people"

The church sucks ass but this is the absolute worst take regarding this specific post.

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[-] BKXcY86CHs2k8Coz@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Didn’t this guy pay a personal visit to the christofascist who refused to grant a gay marriage license September 2015? Guy wore a similar hat anyway.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Note that he said this in a private conversation, not an official statement.

He will backtrack on this in less than a week, he always does this little dance.

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[-] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Wake me up when Catholics aren't forced-birth advocates that will vote in any fascist that aligns with their single issue.

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