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submitted 5 months ago by GlueBear@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

What's stopping us? Not all of us have to, obviously, but at least some of us can live that way.

If our antiquated predecessors could sometimes manage it, I'm sure we can too. Maybe even better.

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[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago

Groundwater is a terrible thing to deal with for underground dwellings. It's a hard problem to solve. Possible, but hard.

[-] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

around 40 million people live in yaodongs in China

[-] M68040@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The Pueblo also made very good use of features like mesas and canyons.

[-] Krem@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

similar to shaanbei yaodong are the cave houses in the sierra nevada in andalucia. especially the sacromonte caves in granada, traditionally inhabited by roma who were not allowed to live inside city limits

[-] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Digging out a ton of rock and earth is a lot more complicated IRL than it is in games like Dwarf Fortress or Minecraft. Real life geology is pretty complicated, you gotta deal with shit like ground water, unstable types of earth, blasting. It's all pretty expensive and dangerous. Meanwhile humans have gotten pretty good at erecting shit above ground, we can throw up sheds and huts like nobodies business.

Edit: Also plumbing, electrical, HVAC, means of egress and sewage become problems with subterranean development. Digging a room underground, doable, but then you're gonna have to dig out additional shit to get all the water pipes and air ducts in there. Also, people like having windows, and windows are good for fire safety, but it's kind of hard to put enough windows in if only one side of a dwelling is facing the open land.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

more complicated IRL than it is in Minecraft

true true

Dwarf Fortress

woah slow down

[-] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

As much as I like DF, even dwarfs couldn't mine out giant granite chambers that fucking quick with just pickaxes, come on.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

I promise you I was only joking when I implied that Dwarf Fortress is literally more complicated than real life

spoilersicko-satan or was I

[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

I wanna see the fucking sun

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

Sweetiy we have seasonal depression lamps ๐Ÿ˜Œ

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

People acting like you gotta turn into Gollum and never leave your underground dwelling while subsisting on blind cave fish.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah hahaha, that would be weird if we did that sicko-wistful

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Leave those blind cave fish alone, they're just vibing and eating algae.

[-] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I wanna be an irl dwarf fortress dwarf ngl

[-] context@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

it's a dangerous world to live in. just the other day i built a well over an underground lake in a cavern layer. every now and then a giant bat would fly up the well and into the room, flap around a bit, and then leave back down the well. but then one time one of the children was in the room and in a panic running away from the giant bat ended up falling down the well and drowning.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

o shid o fuk a giant bat aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa splash halphalp i'm drowning blubbrbrbbllblbl

This is why you make an automated swimming pool in your temple.

[-] context@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

i've now placed cage traps all around the well. any chance i can train the giant bats to be mounts?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

To my knowledge mounts are currently only available to the player in Adventure Mode. I could be wrong though. As far as I understand it mounts aren't working in Fortress mode for the player but do work for enemies who enter the map riding them.

They should be trainable though. Also those things are massive, like several times the size of an adult dwarf so the child falling down the well in fear shouldn't be too surprising. Max giant bat size is 200k cm^3 while max dwarf size is 60k cm^3. Max size figures are pretty good for getting a general idea of the size of these things lol.

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

Look into Derinkuyu. It's so fucking cool. They were able to do it because it was soft stone.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

Keeping the water out winds up being a huge problem. Either its percolating down from outside water sources and working down through the cracks in the rocks until its inside your house or its condensation buildup from the living things inside the cave house.

Personally, I'd love to live in an underground bunker because I'm a weirdo, but i would be pretty cool with some small single story house with a reinforced shed style roof with a few feet of soil and let the crass grow.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

earth-covered homes have a great climate control advantage, I'm for it in environments where it's feasible

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

let's do it

I'll start digging while you gather up some rugs and pillows

[-] RION@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

It's generally much more economical to build upward into empty air than to clear large amounts of earth before you can even get started building

[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago
[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

Subnautica style underwater living facility, but we live in a shallow area.

It can be done, damnit, I know it can

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

It would be so cool to have a stairway with glass in one side so you can walk up or down the stairs and see the change between above and below the waterline

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Feel your ears pop as you descend. See the fauna change

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Even better! I was just imagining a two story next to a lake deal or something.

[-] aaro@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

real hoxha-turt hours who up

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

Feel like shit, just wanna live in a hobbit hole.

[-] imikoy@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

some of us can live that way

looks at billionaires' bunkers

[-] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

Obligatory Coober Pedy posting

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago
[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We climb out of hole

We poop in designated area

We compost poop

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

poop juice infiltrates thru the walls because we didn't put our poop processing hole far enough away

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

This is tangentially relevant, but in my conworld I'm mainly writing about one specific country, and this country was colonized by a foreign empire. A major part of the colonial resource extraction was in the form of mining, particularly open-pit mining. When economic crises led to a lot of mining companies pulling out of the colony and simply abandoning their old mines โ€” with these crises also leading to widespread homelessness within the colony โ€” a lot of homeless residents actually ended up carving homes into the sides of the benches of the abandoned mining pits. A lot of these homes are still around today, albeit less hazardous and with running water โ€” and the people who live in these homes are called "troglodytes" or "trogs" or "troggies".

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

Hamas convinced me how good it must be there

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

Remembered this guy that had the manly urge to dig and now there's a group of people that are expanding the tunnels.

https://youtu.be/zmGVyzXiF5g?si=pSTCwzSoYhosVzHl

[-] dannoffs@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago
[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

Some people in Spain used to live in Caves until the 1970's

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

idk, but iirc some really deadly earthquakes have been due to mass cave homes

[-] LimaPatina@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 months ago
[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago
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[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

ROCK AND STONE!

[-] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I would like to live in a subterranean quonset hut or earthship. I also would love to just build a home inside of a mountain, though this is probably due to my inspiration from Minecraft, lol. My heart yearns to be a commie dwarf.

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Moisture management probably.

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